Reduce people's ownership who has more than 10+ plots

[Silhouettic]

It's not punitive and it's not about punishing players like I've said many times and you've ignored.

"It's not punitive because I said so."

I've read all your arguments about why players who rightfully bought housing should have it stripped and all of it ignores the fact that none of these players exploited anything, they didn't cheat, they didn't use a loophole, they didn't use RMT, didn't steal... The real issue comes back to you and your entitlement. "They have something I want and that's not fair".

You are not entitled to someone else's property.

The housing shortage sucks. It's a mess, and it's BEEN a mess for several years. That does not mean you get to take from someone else. Those folks worked hard to buy their houses, worked hard to decorate them and are clearly using them or they would have been hit with auto-demo.

Be upset at SE for not finding a better solution. You are still not entitled to TAKE from someone else.

[VerdeLuck]

Tell me, would you be okay if I came into your house and just took your PC, under the claim that "I want it, therefore it's mine"? No. You'd be pissed off.

lmao what an entirely bad faith argument

[Jojoya]

agree to disagree then, the currently grandfathered houses are definitely a loophole in my opinion,

What do you think the definition of loophole is, in that case?

The grandfathered houses aren't a loophole. They're an intentional design decision so that players who acquired the houses fairly under the rules in the past wouldn't be punished for playing by the rules of the game before those rules changed.

Yes, punished. It's not punishment to you because you wouldn't be affected. It would very much be punishment to those players who had invested large amounts of gil and time into those houses. SE would never be able to compensate those players for losing what they had earned.

As for what is a loophole, it's the multiple FC house ownership per world. The housing guide states the intent is for players to have one personal and one FC house per world and yet SE has left ways for players to get around the one FC house restriction even now without grandfathering getting involved. That is a loophole.

As others have pointed out, the number of grandfathered houses on a world is small. There weren't that many players obtaining multiple personal houses on the same world. They were usually getting them on different worlds (which is an entirely different problem and one still allowed under the current rules).

So let's say those 2-3 dozen houses are made available to other players. That's maybe 2% of the unmet demand met at best. What is SE supposed to take away from players next to meet the other 98% of the unmet demand?

[Kenky]

lmao what an entirely bad faith argument

You are talking about trying to take away things that people worked to earn and keep, on the justification that you want one for yourself. So explain to me how that is 'in bad faith'?
And it better not be "One is something in real life, the other is a virtual thing" as a cop-out answer. If it is, then why are you so obsessed with said virtual thing?

You're under the delusion that people who own multiple houses must have cheated, or exploited a loophole to obtain them. That is not the case. That has never been the case. You would think after SE choosing to leave them alone and continue to stand by their decision of not punishing them, that they probably didn't do anything wrong.

You cannot punish people in the Now for what they did in the Past, when what they did in the Past was allowed under that times Laws. To even think that's okay is shockingly absurd

XIV has been out and live for quite a long time. Housing, I believe wasn't there at launch, but pretty close to it. (Maybe Heavensward at the latest?) It's even noticable in the housing wards. Goblet, Lavender and Mist are full to bursting, Shirogane is almost to that point already and Emperyum is brand new (one major patch old!) and it still has a large surplus of small plots vacant and ready to buy. (This last part is obviously depending on your home server. But on average, not all 24+ wards are full yet)

What is your point to all of this? People have pointed out the misinformation and you seemingly continue to choose to ignore the corrections, so where does that leave you?

[yoshikwalla]

I honestly couldn't give the faintest tip of a rat's behind if some people view removing these players' extra homes are "punishing" them. In the current housing system, any extra personal home takes away another player's ability to own one. That was the case back then and it's still the case now. That's all that matters. As long as housing is limited, this will always be the case. It's bad enough people are creating empty FCs to get around the current implementation of new wards.

The housing system is a rotting husk surrounded by multiple layers of bandaids and is overdue for a burial, but this is one bandaid I'd be completely okay with.

[MultihouseHoarder]

I honestly couldn't give the faintest tip of a rat's behind if some people view removing these players' extra homes are "punishing" them. In the current housing system, any extra personal home takes away another player's ability to own one. That was the case back then and it's still the case now. That's all that matters. As long as housing is limited, this will always be the case. It's bad enough people are creating empty FCs to get around the current implementation of new wards.

The housing system is a rotting husk surrounded by multiple layers of bandaids and is overdue for a burial, but this is one bandaid I'd be completely okay with.

I'm okay if they remove my homes as long as they remove every house, mount, minion, gil and achievement that have been earned from everyone playing. I mean, let's be completely fair and remove everything that everyone has worked for.

[yoshikwalla]

I'm okay if they remove my homes as long as they remove every house, mount, minion, gil and achievement that have been earned from everyone playing. I mean, let's be completely fair and remove everything that everyone has worked for.

You're free to scream as much as you want if they remove your extra homes. We'll be free to stare for a bit and move right in.

[MultihouseHoarder]

I like my odds cupcake, good luck to you!

[yoshikwalla]

I like my odds cupcake, good luck to you!

Good luck :-)

[Nepentha]

I honestly couldn't give the faintest tip of a rat's behind if some people view removing these players' extra homes are "punishing" them. In the current housing system, any extra personal home takes away another player's ability to own one. That was the case back then and it's still the case now. That's all that matters. As long as housing is limited, this will always be the case. It's bad enough people are creating empty FCs to get around the current implementation of new wards.

The housing system is a rotting husk surrounded by multiple layers of bandaids and is overdue for a burial, but this is one bandaid I'd be completely okay with.

Then demand SE find a solution to the problem by making sure everyone has access to housing.