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  1. 07-16-2022 07:06 AM
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    Eh, I'm just tired of housing at this point, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erinellza View Post
    This! I've said this before and I will say it again: I started playing in 2019 and camped my first cottage as a Sprout totally alone, literally no one else showed up! I got the plot without competition after a few hours and I didn't even have to spam-click the placard. There were PLENTY of other available plots!! The problem is that the playerbase got bigger but we barely got new wards! The lottery will never fix the supply & demand issue.
    I feel like the lottery system isn't designed to fix the supply and demand issue, but rather even the playing field for getting a house given the low supply vs. demand. It discourages the camping a board for hours that isn't exactly healthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    I feel like the lottery system isn't designed to fix the supply and demand issue, but rather even the playing field for getting a house given the low supply vs. demand. It discourages the camping a board for hours that isn't exactly healthy.
    this.
    housing is supposed to be limited and prestigious. its been that way since housing was first implemented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    this.
    housing is supposed to be limited and prestigious. its been that way since housing was first implemented.
    Official SE citation needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    I walked up to a house with no bidders, paid and got it the next day. Same with my friend who is now my neighbour. The supply is not enough but the current system is vastly superior to the old one.
    And just what year and world did this happen?

    I won't deny that it was much easier to get a house at certain times in the past but that was because the supply was meeting or exceeding demand.

    Those days are gone. The player base has quadrupled in size while we've only gotten a 40% increase in the number of houses. The demand far exceeds the supply, not the other way around.

    Going back to placard spam means so many players camping the same placard that you won't be able to see them all. We already had that happening last year even on Goblet smalls.

    It also would bring back the RMT sellers and their click bots in droves. The current system can't stop RMT but it has curtailed it.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 07-16-2022 at 09:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Official SE citation needed.
    It was an answer to a question in one of the live letter broadcasts. iirc, it was a mr.happy recap video where he was discussing the availability of personal housing and something about Dark Knight. I would look it up, but I don't know where to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    It was an answer to a question in one of the live letter broadcasts. iirc, it was a mr.happy recap video where he was discussing the availability of personal housing and something about Dark Knight. I would look it up, but I don't know where to.
    Seems trivial, look for Live Letter recaps that mention both. If you can't find it then it's more likely a comment from Mr.Happy than Yoshi-P.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    this.
    housing is supposed to be limited and prestigious. its been that way since housing was first implemented.
    Not really, Housing was implemented for FCs only in 2.1. There were 3 districts and 12 wards so space for 1080 FCs in the early days of the game and, afaik, there was more than enough for that purpose so that every FC could get one.

    It was later updated to include personal use in patch 2.38 and Yoshi-P has been apologising for the lack of availability since that day.

    The system could be prestigious if it were something you actually earn, but right now there's nothing "prestigious" about owning a house in FFXIV because those that do just got lucky. If people with plots think that makes them admirable then the actual word for that would be pretentious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sairys View Post
    Not really, Housing was implemented for FCs only in 2.1. There were 3 districts and 12 wards so space for 1080 FCs in the early days of the game and, afaik, there was more than enough for that purpose so that every FC could get one.

    It was later updated to include personal use in patch 2.38 and Yoshi-P has been apologising for the lack of availability since that day.

    The system could be prestigious if it were something you actually earn, but right now there's nothing "prestigious" about owning a house in FFXIV because those that do just got lucky. If people with plots think that makes them admirable then the actual word for that would be pretentious.
    Prestigious isnt the right word. Just very, very, VERY fortunate. You do get a sense of relative high status for having a piece of perma-customizable land on a server that anyone can come in and watch. Which I believe is the only real value to server based housing over instanced based and believe it or not, there are people that do community events in these servers like the recent billboard party thing.

    Even still, I really would prefer instance housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Prestigious isnt the right word. Just very, very, VERY fortunate. You do get a sense of relative high status for having a piece of perma-customizable land on a server that anyone can come in and watch. Which I believe is the only real value to server based housing over instanced based and believe it or not, there are people that do community events in these servers like the recent billboard party thing.

    Even still, I really would prefer instance housing.
    Yes, those that believe owning a plot gives them high status would fall under the definition of pretentious because again, they just got lucky. What you do with your plot is also separate from just owning it. Other people might do the same, maybe even something better, they just can't because they don't have a plot.

    We also can't really compare wards to instanced for things like community events, given they are popular you'd actually expect instanced housing to be developed to support them continuing. It would be just as valid to say that instanced housing would likely make those events even better because it could allow for a much wider variety of plots allowing for even more diverse designs, imagine one with a rooftop bar, for example.
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