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  1. #51
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    Caster-LB's Avatar
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    Ranma- Saotome
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    Phoenix
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    Yeah, this is not a healing difficulty issue you are describing. You definitely didn't need 3 healers, you needed 1 and a phoenix down that works in-combat. It was never going to be a smooth run for your party even if you had 7 healers.
    + Well Phoenix down defo would've helped but still worry about a healer dropping and not being ready to deal with boss AoE in time

    Also suppose I don't mind dying but the polyglot. .
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  2. #52
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by pinkbubblegum View Post
    I think 2 healers is fine. Imagine being in the alliance with 1 healer and your healer's new and blind. Sounds like a very unfun time for all involved lol. Doesn't matter for stuff like ARR Alliance Raids but even HW ones people still die to mechs in Dun Scaith...
    Now imagine content is new and no one knows mechanics. Same thing.
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  3. #53
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkbubblegum View Post
    I think 2 healers is fine. Imagine being in the alliance with 1 healer and your healer's new and blind. Sounds like a very unfun time for all involved lol.
    So the healer is only meant to be there so the tanks and dps have fun?

    What about the healer having fun?
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    So the healer is only meant to be there so the tanks and dps have fun?

    What about the healer having fun?
    If the healer wants to have fun, they can choose to swap off healer and queue as a DPS or tank.
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  5. #55
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    Shuuli's Avatar
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    Shuuli Vondael
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    NO,

    Following comps have run this raid successfully since it came out
    - Full tank,
    - Full heal,
    - Full dps
    - Only summoner,

    And the list goes on and on.

    This is not the "high" end content to be too hard to complete. This drops the coin that is usually the "catch-up" gear for people who don't raid.

    Obviously you will not need any specific comp to complete it, because that would go against the idea of "catching people up" to the hardcore savage raiders / ultimate cleaners..
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  6. #56
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    So the healer is only meant to be there so the tanks and dps have fun?

    What about the healer having fun?
    But you’re a healer! You like to heal, right?? Like… once or twice in Byregot’s 5m encounter…

    /s
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    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

  7. #57
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    pinkbubblegum's Avatar
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    Iris Marigold
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    Tonberry
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    So the healer is only meant to be there so the tanks and dps have fun?

    What about the healer having fun?
    I think people are severely overestimating the purpose of roulettes though xD
    They exist to give people a quick in and out for exp purposes, not a test of skill and mettle haha. I never run rouls with healers anymore since I use them during MSQ and they get to max in like 5 days of roulettes during expac launches. It's just really good for people who like, log in for a few hours to run dailies and do a bit of story then log off for the night.
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  8. #58
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by pinkbubblegum View Post
    I think people are severely overestimating the purpose of roulettes though xD
    They exist to give people a quick in and out for exp purposes, not a test of skill and mettle haha. I never run rouls with healers anymore since I use them during MSQ and they get to max in like 5 days of roulettes during expac launches. It's just really good for people who like, log in for a few hours to run dailies and do a bit of story then log off for the night.
    "Roulettes aren't suppose to be fun..."
    "I never run rouls with healers anymore"

    Is there anything that really needs to be said here?
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    Last edited by Silver-Strider; 07-14-2022 at 10:19 PM.

  9. #59
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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    "Roulettes aren't suppose to be fun..."
    "I never run rouls with healers anymore"

    Is there anything that really needs to be said here?
    Isn't it standard procedure by now that people who don't do things judge people that do and are unhappy with it and tell them to chill?
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  10. #60
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    Aergrael Iyrnrael
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by JacobNewblood View Post
    1: raises, if you have no SMN or RDMs, once healer goes down unless other parties wipe ya up ya done for.
    I think this is part of a general issue anyway. The diffirence of a DPS being able to rez is quite big. It negates the need for a double healer as the DPS can always rez the healer if needed. But without it, you need the 2nd healer, or the duty relies on just that healer. Thats why i think it would be better if all classes have a rez option, except with further restrictions (standing close and requiring an interact with cast time). The more this is unified in the DPS, the better those roles can be balanced.

    Having 2 healers in an alliance raid to just cover this feels flaw to me like bad design. For 8man duties it makes sense as there are no other parties to cover you, and even then depending on the duty it can vary a lot (but this is the same with tanks, they might have to just go for pure dps when the other tank can manage the agro fine).
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