Do we really need two healers per alliance in 24 mans?

[Kurando]

It's really down to the skill of the healer(s), which can be said for any content where there are two in the party. Though when it comes to casual duties there needs to be a safety net of sorts, because if something happens to a healer (they are new so died often, weren't paying attention, disconnected etc), the rest of the party might not enjoy it if they have to completely restart a fight.

[rxantos]

2nd healer is in case the 1st one dies. Or 1st healer is unable to res at the time. And since is divided in 8, is a pain to heal anyone outside your party (you need to manually click on them).

One can argue that in that 24 person raid. you only need one tank. They didn't designed it for more than one tank, which is a flaw. The two OT should have more to do and not just be DPS (Hopefully Square listen to this when they design the next raid).

Finally if a DPS stays dead for more than one minute your healers suck.

[Silver-Strider]

Finally if a DPS stays dead for more than one minute your healers suck.

I mass rezzed a party all throughout the 89 trial. Other than the Tanks and myself, they all kept dying to the same mechanics. Last 5 minutes was just us 3 fighting her because 5 deaths for all 4 DPS and my Co-healer, it wasn't worth rezzing them anymore.

We cleared it so screw this mentality.

[GoatOfWar]

Not really, but they don't really want to challenge healers outside of savage content i think. It's sort of a failsafe i guess. If i didn't know any better i'd say they only want new or inexperienced healers to play the role, as there's nothing of substance once you've learned how to heal. Imagine if any other role spent 90% of their time mashing 1 button. Your reward for mastering the healers is vastly inferior gameplay.

[Caster-LB]

Well I've seen things . . . Orbonne monastery, just there to get one glam, party near wiped on mustadio, one healer was dead , don't know what the other was doing agrias went ok but one healer DC'd and our tank went down

Die to dark crusader AoE since our healer was dead again and the other DC

Thunder god . . . Well our healer died, then the tank died so the boss autos the rest of us to death, only one left standing is the other healer after re-connect, DPS check comes up and reaches 100% so thundergod mercy kills us even looking at the pics again . . Would've needed three healers to make it through that run smoothly

[Rilifane]

There is no bar in this entire universe that's low enough to prevent these situations. None. You could make healers automatically pulse a 2000 potency heal called "I'm taking good care of you uwu ♥" and somehow there'll still be healers out there who manage to let people die. There are groups that would manage to wipe with 5 healers. Been there, done that.
But any barely-semi-competent healer that doesn't afk will be able to solo heal pretty much every casual content, barring extreme clownfiesta cases. But instead of asking people to... oh, I don't know, maybe not be hilariously bad, afk and lick windows? They made sure that healers can basically never be the reason something fails. Don't worry, it's cool if tanks and dps fail but healers?. Nuh-uh! The absolute horror! Imagine someone dying and... and... their gaming experience is ruined. Absolutely ruined, I tell you! This healer let them die to something and now they're mentally scarred for life and oh please have mercy, SE and give them the "I'm taking good care of you uwu ♥" skill already because dying is clearly the end of the universe.

No, I'm not salty.

[ThorneDynasty]

Well I've seen things . . . Orbonne monastery, just there to get one glam, party near wiped on mustadio, one healer was dead , don't know what the other was doing agrias went ok but one healer DC'd and our tank went down

Die to dark crusader AoE since our healer was dead again and the other DC

Thunder god . . . Well our healer died, then the tank died so the boss autos the rest of us to death, only one left standing is the other healer after re-connect, DPS check comes up and reaches 100% so thundergod mercy kills us even looking at the pics again . . Would've needed three healers to make it through that run smoothly

Yeah, this is not a healing difficulty issue you are describing. You definitely didn't need 3 healers, you needed 1 and a phoenix down that works in-combat. It was never going to be a smooth run for your party even if you had 7 healers.

[Liam_Harper]

2nd healer is in case the 1st one dies. Or 1st healer is unable to res at the time.

You're not wrong. But how on earth is that good design for an entire role?

As an example, imagine if raid bosses tethered 2-3 dps from each group at the start of each fight. The boss would be split into phases and could only take a set amount of damage per phase and this check was easily cleared by 2 dps. The untethered dps did 99% less damage, but would gain a tether if one of the primary dps died or a certain amount of time passed.
The majority of the time the "secondary dps" would never be needed and would just stand there twiddling their thumbs. But they'd be on back-up! Just incase! To give them something to do, they'd have a "Cheer" button, which would be spammed on GCD to cheer on the party and reduce the length of a phase by a tiny fraction.

Sounds ridiculous? It is. That's ff14 healing.

[pinkbubblegum]

I think 2 healers is fine. Imagine being in the alliance with 1 healer and your healer's new and blind. Sounds like a very unfun time for all involved lol. Doesn't matter for stuff like ARR Alliance Raids but even HW ones people still die to mechs in Dun Scaith...

[Mortex]

I think 2 healers is fine. Imagine being in the alliance with 1 healer and your healer's new and blind. Sounds like a very unfun time for all involved lol. Doesn't matter for stuff like ARR Alliance Raids but even HW ones people still die to mechs in Dun Scaith...

I mean it’s the same with tanks for some alliance fights we’re they get a tankbuster for each. A dead tank means people gonna eat that tankbuster and this is in my eyes way more tilting then a healer derping, just because tanks has way more leeway and “tank privileges” and one still being dead makes it worse