Yoshi-P: "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate"

[Striker44]

All the more reason to not play healer anymore. If you still play healer then you're part of the problem at this point. Things will only change when nobody plays healer anymore. If you don't want to spend your free time mashing 1 button then don't. They know you don't want to, they don't care because you're playing it anyway.

Except many of us think it's fine and have no problem with it. I love being a healer right now. And I press far, far, far more than one button

[Nizzi]

Except many of us think it's fine and have no problem with it. I love being a healer right now. And I press far, far, far more than one button

Do you actually do Savage on healers?

[Silver-Strider]

Do you actually do Savage on healers?

Don't even need to do Savage.
Duty Finder Queue times have gotten worse due to lack of healers so things clearly aren't fine with healers, despite what people want to believe about the role. Sure, Savage PFs fill quickly with healers, that's the only content that healing can even be remotely entertaining in but the other 99% of content might as well not exist for healers at all.

[Rilifane]

Don't even need to do Savage.
Duty Finder Queue times have gotten worse due to lack of healers so things clearly aren't fine with healers, despite what people want to believe about the role. Sure, Savage PFs fill quickly with healers, that's the only content that healing can even be remotely entertaining in but the other 99% of content mind as well not exist for healers at all.

It's the only content I still play on healer. Everything else? Nah. I'd rather sit in a queue for 40min and do something lese until it pops than queue on healer. And I think a lot of veteran healers went the same route. They're still playing healer but only for their static/ PF and switch to something fun once done with raiding. Even some of my friends that are firmly in the very casual camp started doing it because they felt they were never really needed and just on "in case something bad happens" standby so they play dps in DF now.

[Nizzi]

Don't even need to do Savage.
Duty Finder Queue times have gotten worse due to lack of healers so things clearly aren't fine with healers, despite what people want to believe about the role. Sure, Savage PFs fill quickly with healers, that's the only content that healing can even be remotely entertaining in but the other 99% of content mind as well not exist for healers at all.

I completely agree, I just always find myself wonder when someone says "tons of people love it, i'm having a blast" if they actually do any of the harder content on these jobs, because comments like "i hit more than 1 button" really just says to me "I have no clue how to play healers correctly in this game." Even in Savage a majority of what we hit is literally 1 button, I did a P1S reclear for gear recently where 80% of my casts were 3 buttons, Broil, Bio and Energy Drain - and this wasn't some highly optimized static either, it was a PF group of randoms. I really, REALLY doubt that anyone who actually plays these jobs correctly would want to defend the garbage design of getting better meaning you spam your 1 key more. Everyone I know, casual or "hardcore" says that healers are the low point of job design within XIV at the moment. Even my friends who raid solely on healers say that the current design is boring and healers need more. Where are these "tons of people" in game? If tons of people loved it, it wouldn't be instant queue anytime you do roulettes. People should be clamouring to play healers since they're a ton of fun, right?

[Katoar]

Except many of us think it's fine and have no problem with it. I love being a healer right now. And I press far, far, far more than one button

People who don't main healers most often have uninformed opinions which should be disregarded when SE is making vital decisions about healer roles. The reason is simple. This type of player cannot clear content with min item level, the way the devs have designed the encounter to be cleared when new. If you find yourself pressing far more buttons than one, your nuke, then you are inevitably going to run into enrage. The content is not designed for healers to play silly and be pressing healing GCDs willy-nilly. You cannot clear content, you cannot make progress playing a healer like that.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Except many of us think it's fine and have no problem with it. I love being a healer right now. And I press far, far, far more than one button

That’s great. I’m happy for you and those many of you—however many they actually amount for…— for truly enjoying the gameplay. These folks in here? Clearly don’t feel the same.

It's the only content I still play on healer. Everything else? Nah. I'd rather sit in a queue for 40min and do something lese until it pops than queue on healer. And I think a lot of veteran healers went the same route. They're still playing healer but only for their static/ PF and switch to something fun once done with raiding. Even some of my friends that are firmly in the very casual camp started doing it because they felt they were never really needed and just on "in case something bad happens" standby so they play dps in DF now.

I’d very much do the same.. except I couldn’t bring myself to. It’s a bit of a weird kind of paradox: when you love the role so much you just can’t move on without it despite all the glaring drawbacks. And then there’s this vague sense of bitterness when coming across (a) random healer who’s evidently had played the role for hundred of hours but is doing every prime example of utter, total bad healing practices. You know.. ”My favorite MMO role had been reduced to dust for these folks..???”-feel.

On top of that, I get burnt out real quick with any other roles. /shrug

[Rilifane]

That’s great. I’m happy for you and those many of you—however many they actually amount for…— for truly enjoying the gameplay. These folks in here? Clearly don’t feel the same.



I’d very much do the same.. except I couldn’t bring myself to. It’s a bit of a weird kind of paradox: when you love the role so much you just can’t move on without it despite all the glaring drawbacks. And then there’s this vague sense of bitterness when coming across (a) random healer who’s evidently had played the role for hundred of hours but is doing every prime example of utter, total bad healing practices. You know.. ”My favorite MMO role had been reduced to dust for these folks..???”-feel.

On top of that, I get burnt out real quick with any other roles. /shrug

I feel the same actually.
At first I never wanted to be a healer, I didn't start out as one. I was an Affliction Warlock and a Shadow Priest but when I respec'd to Holy to sub for a static whose healer had just left and forgot to spec back to Shadow and it lead to me subbing a few more times and ultimately thinking that it's not worth to respec every time (because that was expensive ) and suddenly I was stuck on healer and enjoyed it to the point of maining it, of playing all healer specs and sometimes raiding in two different statics at once just so I could play another heal spec as well. That was over 15 years ago and I haven't dropped healer once since then. Not in a single MMO.

And every time I'm in content and see a really bad healer it hurts to know that my favourite role got butchered so these people can lick windows and eat crayons while getting a fast ticket through content.
I don't care if someone calls it elitism or arrogance - it just feels like a kick to the face. It's not even a vague sense of bitterness for me, it's outright salt. A gigantic mountain of salt.

Fortunately I enjoy BLM but there's always this feeling of something missing. I enjoy it, I really do but there's this underlying feeling of it being a rebound class.

[GoatOfWar]

Except many of us think it's fine and have no problem with it. I love being a healer right now. And I press far, far, far more than one button

Wonderful. I'm glad you're enjoying playing healer and by all means continue to do so. However, that does not invalidate any previously aforementioned complaints, nor does that mean that nothing should be changed about their current state. And for those who share the sentiment that they need to change, it is in their best interest to just stop playing them. The devs have already heard our complaints and they're not changing anything. They know people want change but the devs don't care because those same people are still playing healer anyway.