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    I think I'd really dislike a hard cut timeline personally. I get the want for one, but for me, I think it would ruin a lot of the immersion for me. If they ever release one I'll probably ignore it for my own character lore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Far as I'm aware, the entire story takes place in the span of a year.
    That's nonsense and everybody knows it. You could make a case for 4-5 years, but 1 is nonsense and no writer worth their salt will ever accept that time frame, especially when in HW there was a woman who ran off to Idyllshire with a man and ended up getting pregnant before eventually giving birth (I believe that was over the span of 3.0 to 3.3). That alone implies the end of 3.0 to 3.3 is at least a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    That's nonsense and everybody knows it. You could make a case for 4-5 years, but 1 is nonsense and no writer worth their salt will ever accept that time frame, especially when in HW there was a woman who ran off to Idyllshire with a man and ended up getting pregnant before eventually giving birth (I believe that was over the span of 3.0 to 3.3). That alone implies the end of 3.0 to 3.3 is at least a year.
    *shrug*

    Yoshi-P has said he likes to believe the timeline is relevant to real time, so the 3.5/4 months between each major patch with story updates is how much time has passed in game when you go to start your next MSQ post expansion quest. Other random sources have indicated that the entire thing takes place in a year. Honestly, who knows and who cares? The writers clearly don't really put much stock into an actual timeline and its probably a good thing they don't confine themselves to one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    *shrug*

    Yoshi-P has said he likes to believe the timeline is relevant to real time, so the 3.5/4 months between each major patch with story updates is how much time has passed in game when you go to start your next MSQ post expansion quest. Other random sources have indicated that the entire thing takes place in a year. Honestly, who knows and who cares? The writers clearly don't really put much stock into an actual timeline and its probably a good thing they don't confine themselves to one.
    I completely agree. I think it would not be a great choice for the writers to be adhering to a strict timeline to have to follow.

    This is a fantasy game, with fantasy races, where we might also be going to other worlds and shit. I don't understand the huge push for realism I see in regards to stuff like that, what would it help? Why are we putting our IRL rules onto this fantasy game? Makes my brain want to explode thinking about it lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiRon View Post
    I remember people thinking we'd get a BIG timeskip between 6.0 and 6.1 and we'd finally see adult Leveilleurs.
    lol.
    lmao.
    10.0 will come out and they'll still be 17 because otherwise theyd have to redux the entire bahamut questline.
    You can do Bahamut at any time but since it revolves around the twins they can never get growd unless they rewrite it, force it into msq despite it not being in raid roulette, or come up with a timetravel plot device, and since everyone DESPISES daily alliance because 6/7 times its Labyrinth or Syrcus, the first absolutely will never happen.
    I guess Alphinaud and Alisaie could get their spines broke to excuse not getting their mature rlf growth spurt but since theyre in Trusts that aint likely either
    meanwhile I did Eden after EW.
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    here is my simple time line of events from the end of 1.0 as alegacy player not ARR is count as the frist year. so
    1. ARR and all events up to ultima weapon itself a year. the events of the post ARR paches ending with the bloody banquet is about 6 more mouth so AA to heavensward is about 1 year.
    2 heavensward year 2 all events of the msq+the end of the dragonsong war (aka the final steps of faith). i'm putting at 2 to 3 years (you not ending a thousand year war so quickly.
    the last set of patches leading into stormblood bout 8 weeks.
    3. Stormblood all of it all the way till the battle with Zenos/elbidius i'm guess say 2-4 year again you battle a war on to fronts and not at the same time.
    4.shadowbrings get strange as the first has diffent time but can also have time equal to the source. (i refuse to believe no one did anything wile we were away) so i'm say it took about a year ot 2 when 1 year one ont he frist = and 1 hour on the source. (again time travel is a strange ting to accoutn for)
    5.endwalker the events up tot he end with the endsigner i would say happen in a year time. and 6.0 takes palce 8 mouth later so my time line of events is is 8 years from arr to present.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ballprince View Post
    I completely agree. I think it would not be a great choice for the writers to be adhering to a strict timeline to have to follow.

    This is a fantasy game, with fantasy races, where we might also be going to other worlds and shit. I don't understand the huge push for realism I see in regards to stuff like that, what would it help? Why are we putting our IRL rules onto this fantasy game? Makes my brain want to explode thinking about it lmao.
    Let me put it in a way you can understand. If we go under the assumption that ARR happened in around a month or two, that you trust these people enough to throw your life away for them? That one of their deaths (Moenbryda) badly effects you when you've barely known them a week or two? Realism or not, you're not going to do something like that for somebody you barely know, that isn't long enough for bonds to set in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Latarma View Post
    here is my simple time line of events from the end of 1.0 as alegacy player not ARR is count as the frist year. so
    1. ARR and all events up to ultima weapon itself a year. the events of the post ARR paches ending with the bloody banquet is about 6 more mouth so AA to heavensward is about 1 year.
    2 heavensward year 2 all events of the msq+the end of the dragonsong war (aka the final steps of faith). i'm putting at 2 to 3 years (you not ending a thousand year war so quickly.
    the last set of patches leading into stormblood bout 8 weeks.
    3. Stormblood all of it all the way till the battle with Zenos/elbidius i'm guess say 2-4 year again you battle a war on to fronts and not at the same time.
    4.shadowbrings get strange as the first has diffent time but can also have time equal to the source. (i refuse to believe no one did anything wile we were away) so i'm say it took about a year ot 2 when 1 year one ont he frist = and 1 hour on the source. (again time travel is a strange ting to accoutn for)
    5.endwalker the events up tot he end with the endsigner i would say happen in a year time. and 6.0 takes palce 8 mouth later so my time line of events is is 8 years from arr to present.
    That seems like a fairly decent head canon.

    My idea would be about 2 years from 2.0 to 6.0 really any more like that bumps into problems with the twins and puberty. Which is generally why an "official" one doesn't exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Let me put it in a way you can understand. If we go under the assumption that ARR happened in around a month or two, that you trust these people enough to throw your life away for them? That one of their deaths (Moenbryda) badly effects you when you've barely known them a week or two? Realism or not, you're not going to do something like that for somebody you barely know, that isn't long enough for bonds to set in.


    You're kind of ignoring the context here. I'm sure that soldiers create fairly quick bonds on the battlefield. They want to be seen as reliable so that they can rely on people. I imagine that the friendships that "adventurers" have are fairly short generally, so anything longer than a few weeks would definitely seem like a long friendship.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Latarma View Post
    here is my simple time line of events from the end of 1.0 as alegacy player not ARR is count as the frist year. so
    1. ARR and all events up to ultima weapon itself a year. the events of the post ARR paches ending with the bloody banquet is about 6 more mouth so AA to heavensward is about 1 year.
    2 heavensward year 2 all events of the msq+the end of the dragonsong war (aka the final steps of faith). i'm putting at 2 to 3 years (you not ending a thousand year war so quickly.
    the last set of patches leading into stormblood bout 8 weeks.
    3. Stormblood all of it all the way till the battle with Zenos/elbidius i'm guess say 2-4 year again you battle a war on to fronts and not at the same time.
    4.shadowbrings get strange as the first has diffent time but can also have time equal to the source. (i refuse to believe no one did anything wile we were away) so i'm say it took about a year ot 2 when 1 year one ont he frist = and 1 hour on the source. (again time travel is a strange ting to accoutn for)
    5.endwalker the events up tot he end with the endsigner i would say happen in a year time. and 6.0 takes palce 8 mouth later so my time line of events is is 8 years from arr to present.
    A little too long there, at least IMO for Stormblood and Shadowbringers. Stormblood I feel that 2 years would be the maximum time frame for the entire expansion. Shadowbringers I feel would be closer to 8 months. This is mostly due to the time shenanigans between the First and the Source (2 months for 5.0 to 5.3), and how Bozja being given about 6 months is plausible (and blends well with the time between 5.3 and 5.5/6.0's start). So I'd estimate it at around 6 years, personally.

    Quote Originally Posted by LeonKeyh View Post
    That seems like a fairly decent head canon.

    My idea would be about 2 years from 2.0 to 6.0 really any more like that bumps into problems with the twins and puberty. Which is generally why an "official" one doesn't exist.
    It was stated by Urianger at one point that he didn't get his growth spurt until he was 20. Could be possible that the twins are late bloomers on the growth spurt.

    Quote Originally Posted by LeonKeyh View Post
    You're kind of ignoring the context here. I'm sure that soldiers create fairly quick bonds on the battlefield. They want to be seen as reliable so that they can rely on people. I imagine that the friendships that "adventurers" have are fairly short generally, so anything longer than a few weeks would definitely seem like a long friendship.
    Except a few of those people we met were NOT on the battlefield. Minfilia was not on the battlefield when we met her, and the time she was on one was during a single instance. Same with Moenbryda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Latarma View Post
    ... so my time line of events is is 8 years from arr to present.
    Very good!
    Now, imagine when we reach the last expansion 10 years in future!

    That's why we can't have an official calendar 'cause this will put an amazing amount of things to keep track for the devs to make the world alive. Imagine all changes that can happen to any place in 8 years... some ruins must've be taken by villagers or the resolution of the Dragonsong war could bring more winged people to live next to Ishgard (or even inside it!). Some places could've been restaured after the war (like that tower where dragons lived), some new areas in cities could have expanded 'cause the peace that comes after the war letting population to grow. Some advanced militar posts could have been dismantled or transformed in small villages...

    And then, the question about aging. Some couples could have new babies, or kids, some old people could have passed away, some children must've grow into adult life... youngs could have married and living different adult lives (like Emmanelein).

    To keep the enviroment "almost static" they are forced to keep the passage of time going very slowly, no matter if the msqs press us to believe that some months or years have passed from a point to another.

    It would be INCREDIBLY awesome if we have a MMO that have this kind of dinamic changes as we play it. But the big issue is to make all changes only occuring for the player that advances through the story. The new player must have to see all the transformation at his own pace. It's not an easy thing to do and to keep...

    When we reach the last expansion for this game 10 years from here, i think Merlwyb could become an "old hag pirate from the bloody glory days!" xD
    And maybe Cid is an elder sitting in a chair with a gentle smile in his face contemplating everything he did for the realm while Lyse is complaining to Hien about their third newborn babie u.u

    But, sadly, this will never happen like this! The msq will tell us more 8 to 10 years of events, but the world will age only 2 years, at most.
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    Last edited by Wanzzo; 07-13-2022 at 04:56 AM.
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