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  1. #1051
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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    The more stories I read about the joys of PF the more I'm tempted to hop into a few practice/ "farm" parties for giggles again. Haven't done that in a while and I'm curious if the usual suspects are still at it.
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  2. #1052
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Dun Scaith, as an AST.

    • That was the highest amount of rezzing I ever did in first boss.
    • Also the highest amount of Rescue usage in a single duty.
    • Our PLD tank was one of those tanks who thought Provoke is a core part of their rotation and would repeatedly cleave the raid. Oh God, those vuln cookies… Co-SGE was visibly frustrated throughout the duty.
    • Wiped once in Scathach at 2nd time the add spawns. I gave the raid a quick explanation & then we cleared it 2nd time just fine~
    • Everytime our PLD tank provoked Diabolos his day is numbered. No cooldown used against Hallowed Camisado + Vuln cookies. Oh well…
    • Exited the duty with 6 comms. Feels awesome.
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  3. #1053
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    Silica-chan's Avatar
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    Rena Kangawa
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    Shiva
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    Monk Lv 90
    So I don't have a specific story to share but the first 10 Minutes of this anime episode showcase quite well what it feels like running into a less than decent tank & healer pair lol

    https://youtu.be/Awm9wHWT-i0?t=32

    (it's the first episode of the Anime "Don't Hurt Me, My Healer! Ep. 1" on the Crunchyroll YouTube channel.)
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  4. #1054
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    AnotherPerson's Avatar
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    Cain Andleft
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    Malboro
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Alagia as sage.

    Co-healer dipped out after the second boss, so I was solo healing the remaining fights. I had a decent amount of fun solo healing since everyone was making mistakes nonstop on Azyema. On my sage, I got to use Eukrasian Prognosis, Prognosis, Pepsis, Zoe+ Pneuma, Diagnosis (when I actually ran out of healing abilities for once) more than 5 times, and the usual toolkit. Outside of a person losing their entire HP bar in one go, I usually manage to keep them alive with 500 to 2k HP even through 2-3 stacks of vulnerability. I still had plenty of time to DPS though, so target-swapping Kardion actually came in handy when I needed that bit of extra healing to finish bringing people with 90% hp back to full to make sure they survive with 2 stacks, but wanted to save my addersgall because the next mechanic is coming up and I get more value on the healing that way. It was pretty fun. A shame the amount of healing to DPSing required for one healer to handle can't be the norm in normal 2-healer content. It feels really good to be using the full healing toolkit with this many mistakes.
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  5. #1055
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I like how the word ”Bolide” sends terror to many DF healers.

    When I notified that SGE I met in Holminster, their first reaction was to exhaust virtually almost everything in their arsenal to prevent my health from dipping low. Diagnosis spams (Nope, no E.Diagnosis at all) was all they had at that point and I still haven’t even used SB yet—kinda killed the point of boliding eh? Either way, the pull was weathered just fine and we carry on. I could’ve sworn all the panic, frantic button presses was all visible.

    Fear not random DF healers. Just 12 more credits, then I’ll stop tanking w/ GNB to swap to DRK. Juuuusssttt 12 more….

    /playdead
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  6. #1056
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Lol felt a bit bad for my co-healer in P4S farm.
    They were a Healer main and were tearing my healing to shreds, not in a mean way I think they were genuinely trying to help.
    But we were wiping a lot, not because of lack of healing tho but because of mechanics screw-ups from the others in the group.

    Healer was getting really annoyed because it was a farm group and I think me not knowing all of the timings and probably overhealing a bit annoyed them too ( I have my buffs small and bellow my health and mana to free up space, don't think I noticed stuff like Panhaima ).
    I mean the healing wasn't an issue but I kinda get it was probably obvious I wasn't a Healer main to them xD...
    Funnily enough they were the only one to die in the kill pull because they were so tilted at the others they stopped paying attention lol.

    It started stressing me out a bit at one point tho because basically everything wrong in their eyes I did was being pointed out which made me constantly think '' if I use this cd here will I get '' scolded '' afterwards? ''.
    I can spam Glare and keep the group alive but no I don't know the exact min-max and maybe I used a Medica 2 too many :P.
    I'd rather have the HoT top people off tho than risk it when not knowing.
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  7. #1057
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    Mika Zahard
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Frizze View Post
    Fourth Boss: I honestly dont remember any moves that "trick" people here.
    Pay attention to the water and the column (pretty much the 2nd boss from Royal City and 1st boss from Lighthouse) and avoid all aoe.

    On darkness phase, if you have an aoe, get out of the safe (light) spot, you're not doing anyone a favor by giving everyone vul stacks.
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  8. #1058
    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Feline Good
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    Halicarnassus
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    Paladin Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    I like how the word ”Bolide” sends terror to many DF healers.

    When I notified that SGE I met in Holminster, their first reaction was to exhaust virtually almost everything in their arsenal to prevent my health from dipping low. Diagnosis spams (Nope, no E.Diagnosis at all) was all they had at that point and I still haven’t even used SB yet—kinda killed the point of boliding eh? Either way, the pull was weathered just fine and we carry on. I could’ve sworn all the panic, frantic button presses was all visible.

    Fear not random DF healers. Just 12 more credits, then I’ll stop tanking w/ GNB to swap to DRK. Juuuusssttt 12 more….

    /playdead
    I really wouldn't bother if you've got it set to a macro with a text countdown or anything like that. It feels counterproductive since it doesn't matter if they heal you up afterwards, the heals won't go to waste as you're invulnerable and you'll just be at higher health when the effect ends(Unless 10s is all you need to finish the pull or boss or whatever). Besides that you can't really use it as a panic button if it's got the countdown on it. Maybe I'm just mean but I don't see the need to give healers a warning for SB.

    Living dead though... I mean the moment a healer sees the DRK icon they should be prepared for it but since your healer can actually kill you by healing during it, then it's not a bad idea to have a warning with it.
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  9. #1059
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    I really wouldn't bother if you've got it set to a macro with a text countdown or anything like that. It feels counterproductive since it doesn't matter if they heal you up afterwards, the heals won't go to waste as you're invulnerable and you'll just be at higher health when the effect ends(Unless 10s is all you need to finish the pull or boss or whatever). Besides that you can't really use it as a panic button if it's got the countdown on it. Maybe I'm just mean but I don't see the need to give healers a warning for SB.
    I don't have a macro set for it since I typically only use it as just another cooldown; except I will always say anything around "I will bolide this pull." to let them know that "It's fine. Let me dip low so I can get the most value out of the cooldown as you take your time deciding what will you do to have my health back at comfy range when that 10s time is up. Oh yeah, I also have Aurora & maybe HoC too if this is lv82+ dungeon to help out.".

    I wasn't really clear with my initial post, but what happened was they simply refuse to let me dip low enough before I'm going to bolide. Basically I'm boliding right after they've exhausted all their resources at the moment save their MP for their Diagnosis spams. To some extent this feels like dealing with SB x Benediction meme but to a lesser degree where the GNB pops their bolide right after their WHM's Benediction goes off, except in this case they just don't want to see my health dips low so they're bringing out their big guns too early.

    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Living dead though... I mean the moment a healer sees the DRK icon they should be prepared for it but since your healer can actually kill you by healing during it, then it's not a bad idea to have a warning with it.
    Not anymore though! DRK's Living Dead are now budget Bloodwhetting. DRKs are completely capable of taking care majority bulk of their needed HP recovery & there is no side effect for fully restoring their HP prematurely either. Unless you mean letting the timer falls off before the Walking Dead comes into effect then... yeah >_> RIP.
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  10. #1060
    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    I don't have a macro set for it since I typically only use it as just another cooldown; except I will always say anything around "I will bolide this pull." to let them know that "It's fine. Let me dip low so I can get the most value out of the cooldown as you take your time deciding what will you do to have my health back at comfy range when that 10s time is up. Oh yeah, I also have Aurora & maybe HoC too if this is lv82+ dungeon to help out.".

    I wasn't really clear with my initial post, but what happened was they simply refuse to let me dip low enough before I'm going to bolide. Basically I'm boliding right after they've exhausted all their resources at the moment save their MP for their Diagnosis spams. To some extent this feels like dealing with SB x Benediction meme but to a lesser degree where the GNB pops their bolide right after their WHM's Benediction goes off, except in this case they just don't want to see my health dips low so they're bringing out their big guns too early.



    Not anymore though! DRK's Living Dead are now budget Bloodwhetting. DRKs are completely capable of taking care majority bulk of their needed HP recovery & there is no side effect for fully restoring their HP prematurely either. Unless you mean letting the timer falls off before the Walking Dead comes into effect then... yeah >_> RIP.
    Oh, I'd just SB anyways if I feel like I need it. I wouldn't really bother trying to force it into being a part of your mitigation rotation, it just feels kind of unnecessary. If you need it, then you pop it, and how your healer reacts probably won't change even if you give them a earlier warning about it.

    Yeah I know that LD heals now, but for a while if you had no HP to heal you'd just die. You have to heal your full amount of HP before the timer falls off of WD or you'd die and being healed to the point where you couldn't would get you killed. I didn't know that was changed though.

    Edit: This must be irony. I got this GNB in Doma today who warned me they were going to SB. They proceeded to fail to SB as they dashed ahead between the turrets. Their SB was apparently tied to a macro that says that it's been used and they spammed it like crazy but it never proced.
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    Last edited by NekoMataMata; 07-13-2022 at 03:50 AM.

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