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  1. #51
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    Because your solution is to take the slightest bit of thought and attention that goes into the gameplay before suggesting anything of substance to replace it. What the heck does SGE have except remembering not to overcap on addersgall forever? AST has cards, SCH has ED and a semblance of heal-skill priority, WHM want to have afflatus misery for party bursts. What bare minimum does SGE have without a little bit of MP management? Prioritizing an abundant resource is barely that.
    • AST Cards provide a positive effect on the party through buffs (and more importantly mana regen), there's a reason they should be used on CD.
    • ED can at least be dumped for 100 pot a pop if the Aetherflow CD is almost up, positive effect
    • Missery is now DPS neutral, there's no downside to using them.
    • Addersgall (Durochloe) is solely used for healing, the other stuff has CD's attached to them. If you're in faceroll content you're going to cap pretty easily.

    Tell me which one is the outlier here. It's pretty simple.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 07-24-2022 at 10:53 PM.

  2. #52
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    Because your solution is to take the slightest bit of thought and attention that goes into the gameplay before suggesting anything of substance to replace it.
    You're just kidding yourself if you think there's real thought and attention going into spending Adders for mana. Like I said, it only matters in faceroll content where you don't need to heal and running low on mana in faceroll content is a non-factor. It's just a minor annoyance you try to mitigate that you'll practically never wipe a fight over if you mess it up. It doesn't make you a good player or make the job more interesting.

    The forums are full of discussion about how to make healers, SGE included, more engaging. That's a given. Your argument is basically that we aren't allowed to look at QoL adjustments and smoothing the gameplay until they've fixed the class, which in my opinion is nonsense. I don't need to present a perfect solution to make Sage gameplay exciting before I can suggest a simple tweak to a clunky part of the design.
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  3. #53
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    Kael Yoshim
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    • AST Cards provide a positive effect on the party through buffs, there's a reason they should be used on CD.
    • ED can at least be dumped for 100 pot a pop if the Aetherflow CD is almost up, positive effect
    • Missery is now DPS neutral, there's no downside to using them.
    • Addersgall (Durochloe) is solely used for healing, the other stuff has CD's attached to them. If you're in faceroll content you're going to cap pretty easily.

    Tell me which one is the outlier here. It's pretty simple.
    Sage doesn't play very different from Scholar during trash pulls. And I personally think it's worse having abilities that work like ED than not having anything at all.
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  4. #54
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katoar View Post
    Sage doesn't play very different from Scholar during trash pulls. And I personally think it's worse having abilities that work like ED than not having anything at all.
    SGE has the benefit of doing everything a SCH can without the SCH needs to push the fairy buttons independently. SGE has abilities that heal and buff all at once while SCH has to do it all manually.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  5. 07-24-2022 09:35 PM

  6. #55
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    That moment when you realise that the purest healers in WoW; holy priests, have a more engaging damage rotation than the dps healer :tm: in FF.
    Sage failed at what it was set out to be. Catastrophically so. It's only saving grace is that it has cool animations and sound effects. But beyond that, it's a carbon copy of existing healers.
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    Last edited by GoatOfWar; 07-24-2022 at 10:19 PM.

  7. #56
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    Tetsujin's Avatar
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    Thymos Helmsplitter
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    Ultros
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    Monk Lv 90
    I had no idea what I signed up for when SGE was announced/released. I thought they'd have caster rotations like BLM or skill combos for damage like physical DPS but... nope. It's just pretty much as you said. Still had some fun with it and it's useful to have a healer class pocketed but whew...
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  8. #57
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    Hoatu Hotus
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    After playing all the healers a lot for all content (Fate farming, Savage raiding, Alliance/Normal/Trial roulettes), the big thing i want for SGE:

    1. A GNB DPS rotation that rewards Adder’s Sting. I think the Adder’s Sting should work for both Toxikon and Phlegma. So you choose between more damage at melee range or less damage for more mobility (so you don’t lose uptime).

    I’m a SCH main, but I feel that the SGE SHOULD have a DPS rotation.

    2. A lot more use out of the Kardia mechanic. It feels pretty insignificant and I prefer the fairy and Fey Union so much more over it. It feels a lot more comparable to a poor man’s mixture of Beacon of Light and Glimmer of Light.

    Again I’m a SCH main (aesthetics and playstyle feels great to me over other healers), but I really hate how SGE is just a simplified SCH. It really should be more DPS focus as It’s the most easily accessible endgame healer for DPS mains.
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  9. #58
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    Marcelloix Ostoiraint
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100

    sge

    sge is a decent job does good healing and dps takes a little getting used to but having leveled it to 90 and equiped it and melded it i like this job.
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  10. #59
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    Blade Beoulve
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    idk why people think slow clunky fairy is better than kardia. Tbh I barely just found out yesterday that dot dosis is also doing hot not only in one. I kardia myself when I was messing with old stuff something I never do as i had that dance habit since sage release to kardia tank I out of bordom and was shock at how much hot it dot dosis do so its really doing more than fairies slow embrace.
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  11. #60
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    Pepper Oni
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceBlueNinja View Post
    idk why people think slow clunky fairy is better than kardia. Tbh I barely just found out yesterday that dot dosis is also doing hot not only in one. I kardia myself when I was messing with old stuff something I never do as i had that dance habit since sage release to kardia tank I out of bordom and was shock at how much hot it dot dosis do so its really doing more than fairies slow embrace.
    You don't waste weaves applying Kardia with the fairy. And the fairy will heal even if you're casting heals.
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