Billboard FC Banned

[Larirawiel]

I guess, nothing will happen to the club owner. Maybe a 3 days ban but nothing more. The game companies only sue someone if they suffer real financial losses. But AFAIK nothing happened in this case. Sueing the club owners could be a huge backslash and could lead to financial losses.


Cheers

[Burmecia]

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[technole]

What the hell, are you guys being paid to shill for square here or something?
The material usage license requires you to "slap" the copyright notice and ffxiv logo onto anything that uses ffxiv assets.
The club owners have a very strong case to argue that the reason they used the ffxiv logo and the copyright notice is to comply with the materials usage license, and I suspect that's exactly the reason why they put those on the billboard.

Using mods is a ToS violation, and using datamined assets is not compliant with the materials usage license.
The former results in action taken against your account, and the latter results in, at worst, a cease and desist letter.

You want them to take it to court and argur a copyright law violation? The funny thing about real life court is that it doesn't work like ingame tos violations, you cannot just have a gm put the accused into gaol and suspend them for 10 days without possibility to appeal, you actually have to go through a trial and, and I know this sohnds ludicrous, give the accused a chance to defend themselves.
I know real life law sounds inconvenient but it is what it is.

Maybe you should hear from a real lawyer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiWHa04qugU

[SeiyaSoiya]

Maybe you should hear from a real lawyer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiWHa04qugU

that video does not constitute legal advice and does not create a lawyer client relationship so it can be dismissed freely
once again my argument is that you need to argue this in a court using lawyers who are in a client-attorney relationship who are giving actual legal advice

[Iscah]

once again my argument is...

Your argument up to this point appears to be that SE can't prosecute them for copyright violation "because they'd have to go through a trial and the accused would get to defend themselves".

That isn't a reason why they can't be prosecuted or a reason why SE wouldn't have a case. Of course it would require a trial if SE wished to pursue it, and nobody here has said otherwise.

[Jojoya]

that video does not constitute legal advice and does not create a lawyer client relationship so it can be dismissed freely
once again my argument is that you need to argue this in a court using lawyers who are in a client-attorney relationship who are giving actual legal advice

It's still a legal analysis of what's known. Saying it can be dismissed freely is pretty silly.

Ultimately, this is between SE and the nightclub operators. SE has to decide if it's worth pursuing.

[Boblawblah]

It feels like the forums are more concerned about this issue that Square is (from an outsider looking in point of view that is)

[technole]

that video does not constitute legal advice and does not create a lawyer client relationship so it can be dismissed freely
once again my argument is that you need to argue this in a court using lawyers who are in a client-attorney relationship who are giving actual legal advice

You obviously don't know what you are talking about, did not watch the video, nor read the FFXIV user agreement.

It's spelled out in plain text they will send notice to cease and after 60 days, than SE will submit to arbitration. All for any reason, unless you have money to survive the chokehold. It's actually a more lenient process than many know, but there are still legal ramifications.

[Limecat]

Hilarious if true, but I don't believe it for a second until I see the wall of REEEEing and people setting their own hair on fire in protest.

[KariTheFox]

You obviously don't know what you are talking about, did not watch the video, nor read the FFXIV user agreement.

It's spelled out in plain text they will send notice to cease and after 60 days, than SE will submit to arbitration. All for any reason, unless you have money to survive the chokehold. It's actually a more lenient process than many know, but there are still legal ramifications.

If they have 60 days to comply with the C&D, wouldn't that just mean that naturally letting the billboard's contract expire means they would be complying? The event is supposed to be tonight, so they can't have paid for more time than that.

Unless the same group rented out more billboards, wouldn't that mean they have complied and SE wouldn't pursue further legal action?