1 House 1 FC per DC Only

[Themarvin]

Well, from your OP, I already understood you don't have a problem with Square going back on their word but I do.

As to travelling to other servers to bid on houses... are you sure that's even possible?

Anyway, my point is, breaking your word repeatedly over an issue is bad policy and I don't think Square are going to do that. They had to roll back on the 'no demolition' and that upset a lot of people at the time, I don't think they're going to break their word again for something that doesn't solve the problem. Becaue house-hoarding, while annoying, isn't actually that much of an issue.
I mean that, it really isn't a big problem. Removing 'Grandfathering' and punishing people who broke no rule when they bought multiple houses is pointless. It won't get you a house and it won't get a house for the 200+ people on my server who are currently looking for one.
It will free up a few here and there, but where people are using multiple accounts or multiple FCs to buy up entire wards it will do NOTHING.

I don't mean to be rude but you are fixating on a tiny symptom of the actual problem. Housing supply is inadequete. It has been inadequete since HW and possibly even before. We need more houses not more inventive ways to take them away from other people.

Make alt on other server... get house... some even think it is cool to do such.

[MultihouseHoarder]

It is not only "cool" but it is completely and utterly within the rules. Why wouldn't someone grab their dream house(s) on another server?

It seems to me that those who refuse to create an alt on another server where they could reasonably acquire their dream house don't do it because they have no friends to show it off to. Apparently, those who MUST have a house to flex for their friends are the ones who are needing to be "cool".

[Themarvin]

It is not only "cool" but it is completely and utterly within the rules. Why wouldn't someone grab their dream house(s) on another server?

It seems to me that those who refuse to create an alt on another server where they could reasonably acquire their dream house don't do it because they have no friends to show it off to. Apparently, those who MUST have a house to flex for their friends are the ones who are needing to be "cool".

It is a limited resource, it would be bad morale to do such a thing, enough said?

[MultihouseHoarder]

When there is a vast supply on another server (OCE), we are not talking about a "limited resource". Your personal decision of what is "morale" does not decide mine. Following the rules of the game as SE determined them - that is applied to both of us.

[Rhea_]

It is a limited resource, it would be bad morale to do such a thing, enough said?

People doesn’t give 2 cent about what is moral in a video game.

I don’t think it’s ok people snags up houses on server they don’t play on, more often, those houses just sits there undecorated, not being used.

But… it’s allowed so I can’t blame anyone taking their time to do so.

[XiaoShengwu]

you know.......
There's this game called League of legends....it so happens that, in South Korea, they limit people to their use of the game to their social security #.

....people complaining that there's not enough supply. okay. Let's assume the devs do increase the supply. That's not going to stop people from, not having a house. Moreover, that's going to just give those who enjoy hoarding the houses...MORE to hoard.

you want a solution. ....radical as it may be....tie your ability to play this game, to your social security #, afterward take out the grandfathered houses that are traceable to a single individual (be that by tracking purchases from credit cards or debit cards by name or whatever means they have available to them). Then, wow, all of a sudden. there's only 1 house for a personal, and 1 house for an FC for you. Crazy.

Now...all that being said ....this is a horrible idea. and S.E. would never do it, because it would require MASSIVE amounts of work on multiple nations' teams coordinating with governments. - won't happen - not to mention, that's an incredibly large invasion to personal records. (though it could lead to a real-life version of SAO...not a bad thought, but not wanted)


Now,...i actually do have a theory, probably not a very good one, but a theory nonetheless.
What if...the devs, never intended for us to have enough houses? ....seriously. what if. what if their goal with the housing system was to ensure that those who put in the time and effort to consistently make money and actually utilize their house, were the ones who were able (outside of the obvious bots) to obtain houses?
like i said...probably not a very good theory...but a theory none the less.

[Eraden]

you know.......
There's this game called League of legends....it so happens that, in South Korea, they limit people to their use of the game to their social security #.

....people complaining that there's not enough supply. okay. Let's assume the devs do increase the supply. That's not going to stop people from, not having a house. Moreover, that's going to just give those who enjoy hoarding the houses...MORE to hoard.

you want a solution. ....radical as it may be....tie your ability to play this game, to your social security #, afterward take out the grandfathered houses that are traceable to a single individual (be that by tracking purchases from credit cards or debit cards by name or whatever means they have available to them). Then, wow, all of a sudden. there's only 1 house for a personal, and 1 house for an FC for you. Crazy.

Now...all that being said ....this is a horrible idea. and S.E. would never do it, because it would require MASSIVE amounts of work on multiple nations' teams coordinating with governments. - won't happen - not to mention, that's an incredibly large invasion to personal records. (though it could lead to a real-life version of SAO...not a bad thought, but not wanted)


Now,...i actually do have a theory, probably not a very good one, but a theory nonetheless.
What if...the devs, never intended for us to have enough houses? ....seriously. what if. what if their goal with the housing system was to ensure that those who put in the time and effort to consistently make money and actually utilize their house, were the ones who were able (outside of the obvious bots) to obtain houses?
like i said...probably not a very good theory...but a theory none the less.

With all due respect, your theory does not hold water. At least with respect to the rationale you suggested as the developers' benchmark for who should be allowed a house. There are THOUSANDS of people on my server alone who have accumulated enough Gil to buy a small plot. Now, this is not to say that they don't want housing to be limited. We simply do not know why there is so little housing available because the developers have given us little to no information on why housing continues to be so scarce. But given the number of people who have gathered up enough Gil for houses and have participated in the Lottery, it's a safe bet that player enthusiasm and effort are NOT limiting factors in the developers' equation.

What may be at play here is the possibility that the developers previously did not put much effort into ascertaining the demand for housing. The results of successive rounds of the Lottery should be more than enough data for them to establish a benchmark to strive for. But, as Jojoya has mentioned previously, it is incumbent upon us to continue participating in the Lottery in order to continue to demonstrate to the developers that the demand is real.

[Themarvin]

People doesn’t give 2 cent about what is moral in a video game.

I don’t think it’s ok people snags up houses on server they don’t play on, more often, those houses just sits there undecorated, not being used.

But… it’s allowed so I can’t blame anyone taking their time to do so.

Would be good to plug that hole for good, since we got the new servers opening up for their wards soon, so it can't be exploited, don't you think so?

[XiaoShengwu]

With all due respect, your theory does not hold water. At least with respect to the rationale you suggested as the developers' benchmark for who should be allowed a house.

Hence why it's only a theory.

That point noted - going off of what you mentioned about the devs not ascertaining the demand for housing though; I would imagine, that ORIGINALLY speaking, they didn't see too much demand for it. IIRC when I joined back in 2013 on my first account, the housing situation wasn't particularly in a good spot for a number of reasons, but there were still hundreds of plots open and Gil still had a 1:1 worth. However as time has gone on, there's been a buy-out (within the bounds of several methods, legitimate or not) of the housing market. That coupled with a larger player base with each expansion, has led to the current shortage. ... I doubt very much that they intended it to be an issue. but at the same time, from my knowledge base of the housing in the game,... I don't think they ever meant for the housing to be so numerous as to accommodate each player with one. This is not to say I don't think they hear the outcry for it currently (which, i hope they do, it would be nice to have more wards of availability to people, i.e. another 24). I just personally believe they don't have the system set up to be able to handle that kind of data burden.

(which is why -fingers crossed- i'm desperately clinging to the hope, that they build/test/implement a new game engine with the oncoming story arc/graphics and further changes/updates) <- don't pop my copium ballon. it's the only one I have and the only one I want XD since I'm literally content with almost every other aspect of the game.


P.S.
also, I cringe every time I see people refer to the current system as a lottery. because it's not. It's a raffle. The only aspect that made the system a lottery was an accident and wasn't supposed to be there.
Lotteries hold the chance, that no one wins. (i.e. the player 0 "bug" )
Raffles have a decided winner. (don't care that that's how they named it it's just a pet peeve of mine.)

[george357]

when all is said and done and after the smoke clears people will still be mad for not getting what they wanted.