The Ninja Changes Still Suck, and The Job Needs a Nerf

[Kolsykol]

Here you go again stalking someone's lodestone to try to discredit their views. I already explained to you how raiders will often run at least 2 characters for split clears, but you're somehow doing this shit again in a different post. The poster clearly shows a detailed understanding of the job through their posts, and you're arguing about pedantics with armor crush and trick attack not having cool... ability names of all things.

It literally says on their profile '' Ninja lvl 70 ''.

I wasn't discrediting their view if you actually read what I said which you clearly didn't.
I was for the most part agreeing with it but I think it's also very overly dramatic to act like the game is basically ruined because of this.
The OP is also arguing about thematics and whether something is or isn't iconic or not, so yes it's relevant.

I dunno how their post showcases a '' detailed understanding of their Job '' either, it's basically just '' I don't like Mug, Trick Attack was more fun ''.
That's just a personal opinion and one I agree with but I still think it was flawed.
I am aware that there are other gameplay related issues one could bring up with buff timings but the OP didn't do that.

I think this is just a wider issue than just NIN too like I said this has more to do with this obsession with the two minute window.
There are also other criticism I'd throw at Mug in that it's the least interesting party wide damage buff.
I guess it could be said that it enables Bunshin ( in the opener at least ) but imo Brotherhood and Arcane Circle are way more interesting imo even if effectively the same as a damage buff because at least Arcane Circle leads into Plentiful Harvest and Brotherhood into machinegun Chakras.
50 Ninki is bleh and boring, at least 60's instead of 120 was a tad bit more interesting.

If you're gonna get mad about people noticing that you don't have something you're talking about leveled up then you can at least post on your actual character if it truly is an alt or you can avoid being overly dramatic.
I know that people can have more than one character but those characters will typically have stuff leveled up too instead of not having anything.

Edit: Also we had infamous MNK trolls leading up to SHB on this forum, including people admitting to not playing MNK but still arguing with MNK mains and wildly making claims.
It's not uncommon at all that people go on about things they don't play.

I don't think that the OP is a troll at all, but it's a bit weird to act like the sky is falling or whatever while posting on a character that don't have said Job even leveled up and it's also what those people did too.
But who the hell am I kidding, melodrama is apparently what this forum is for and then people wonder why the devs avoid the forum and feedback goes unheard...

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xyz

So, are your concerns over Kaiten just melodrama too? How is the removal of a core ability from one job that much more important, than the removal of a raid buff, the last of its kind, that affects every single player in the party?

"I don't think that the OP is a troll at all, but it's a bit weird to act like the sky is falling or whatever while posting on a character that don't have said Job even leveled up"
then check his post history? You can clearly tell from what their previous numerous post that they understand the job far more than you do.