For the love of god - give us Level Sync

[Matsume]

I'm the one who has been PL'ing with Jinko and he is right. There is a huge gap here and it's killing this game right now. It should not be a task finding a party in an MMO. Hell there are even people struggling to put parties together for the new AF gear. I've seen so many new people recently walk from the game for these very reasons and the problem is most that are left playing are all high level so when a new person can't find a party that leaves anyone willing to help them.These people are incredibly over powered so what other options is there than PL? Even if a high level helps they are gonna one shot everything making it not much fun for the new player and then the high level player is going to be bored as well.

I'm going to stop you there because you strike at the heart of the problem.

I am one of those people struggling to finish AF. I am missing WAR AF body fight and let me tell you there has been no one except a few close friends willing to do this one week post patch. Why do you think this is?

The truth is that PLing is only a part of the problem. The much bigger issue at hand is the lack of incomming new players. The fact is that the majority of the player base currently paying for FFXIV have been around since day one. This would have given many amongst them to ge all battleclasses to lvl 50 even without PLing. Remember that PLing was implemented as a solution to the fact that low level players couldn't find parties in the first place and wanted their high lvl friends to help out.

The major problem at hand is the lack of new players. Not enough new players makes it so that the few who join can barely find others with whom to form a party. More often than not these players will quit before their one month free trial is up if they haven't found a roup or linkshell to cruise along with. Pling allowed these players to benefit from the veteran players who may or may not have capped their battleclasses to 50 pre PL.

Unfortuneately the continued lack of new players has turned the solution around on itself only to exasperate the underlying problem at hand. The new players who only have one lvl 50 are surrounded by others who have all lvl 50s, and because they want to be part of the Crown Club they PL each others remaining classes to 50 which in the end removes all of those classes from future low lvl parties.

This is truly a vicious cycle at it's best. But the fact that lvl 50s are finding it hard to find a group to do AF runs only goes to show that lack of parties is not only a low level problem, but an end game problem too.

[Eight]

Unfortunately the continued lack of new players has turned the solution around on itself only to exasperate the underlying problem at hand. The new players who only have one lvl 50 are surrounded by others who have all lvl 50s, and because they want to be part of the Crown Club they PL each others remaining classes to 50 which in the end removes all of those classes from future low lvl parties.

Well this is a big problem as well, just having one 50 isn't enough and this is why Jinko and I have been pushing hard to level because it started getting to the point where you would go to do something like Ifirit and when it switched over to being beneficial to THM. Personally I wasn't ready for that so the group in Lalapalooza I was running with advanced past me and I fell out of the loop so to say.

It's also SE fault for their primal fight designs. Look when Moogles came out everyone wanted archer and very few had it leveled so already that just dropped a ton of people from the new content making PL happen more so they can get back up there to do it.I also think it is part communities fault as well I mean you don't need to have these classes to do it there is other ways especially with the whole THM Ifirit thing when no one wanted to do it the original way that alienated so many people.

Even with some of the new content you get to these places and people ask can you heal and so on and sometimes I didn't have the proper stuff needed to participate properly which is why I stopped end game partying for abit to just get these classes done so I didn't have to worry about any future changes that always seem to be some sort of issue or require something I didn't have.

The new players suffer the most and you know I've PL'd some but in some cases it's so that some people would stay honestly. Like I run with you in Lalapalooza, Red Dot and Spoken and you never want to see someone leave because all three of the LS are great and have amazing people who are truly awesome to play with and to see people who get frustrated and fall behind only to leave without experiencing alot of the fun we have at higher levels is a shame.

That being said you can also understand the situation the higher level people are in and there has to come a point when leveling people burns you out and you just want to focus on the end game stuff you worked towards.For me I need to get my classes up so I can focus on properly being ready for the new dungeons and future content. Like I said Jinko and myself have been leveling each other basically I level one of his classes we switch and do the same (really the only reason we do it as PL is because exp is higher) but we have hit the point where we need to move up to raptors and stuff but that requires a solid exp party imo.

Level sync is pointless, who is going to waste their time lvling a class they already lvled when it is 100x faster to just PL you.

I would but I guess it is based on the person and their needs. Sometimes I just enjoy being in a party having a few laughs and killing crap for me it doesn't always have to be about the grind sometimes it is just fun to group up and have some fun. Also a good way to get to know some of the newer players and make friends and get them more into the game.

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Well this is a big problem as well, just having one 50 isn't enough and this is why Jinko and I have been pushing hard to level because it started getting to the point where you would go to do something like Ifirit and when it switched over to being beneficial to THM. Personally I wasn't ready for that so the group in Lalapalooza I was running with advanced past me and I fell out of the loop so to say.

It's also SE fault for their primal fight designs. Look when Moogles came out everyone wanted archer and very few had it leveled so already that just dropped a ton of people from the new content making PL happen more so they can get back up there to do it.I also think it is part communities fault as well I mean you don't need to have these classes to do it there is other ways especially with the whole THM Ifirit thing when no one wanted to do it the original way that alienated so many people.

Even with some of the new content you get to these places and people ask can you heal and so on and sometimes I didn't have the proper stuff needed to participate properly which is why I stopped end game partying for abit to just get these classes done so I didn't have to worry about any future changes that always seem to be some sort of issue or require something I didn't have.

The new players suffer the most and you know I've PL'd some but in some cases it's so that some people would stay honestly. Like I run with you in Lalapalooza, Red Dot and Spoken and you never want to see someone leave because all three of the LS are great and have amazing people who are truly awesome to play with and to see people who get frustrated and fall behind only to leave without experiencing alot of the fun we have at higher levels is a shame.

That being said you can also understand the situation the higher level people are in and there has to come a point when leveling people burns you out and you just want to focus on the end game stuff you worked towards.For me I need to get my classes up so I can focus on properly being ready for the new dungeons and future content. Like I said Jinko and myself have been leveling each other basically I level one of his classes we switch and do the same (really the only reason we do it as PL is because exp is higher) but we have hit the point where we need to move up to raptors and stuff but that requires a solid exp party imo.

every class is good in ifrit.

[Eight]

This may be so but when people only want certain classes it becomes a problem thanks for reading.

[Matsume]

Well this is a big problem as well, just having one 50 isn't enough and this is why Jinko and I have been pushing hard to level because it started getting to the point where you would go to do something like Ifirit and when it switched over to being beneficial to THM. Personally I wasn't ready for that so the group in Lalapalooza I was running with advanced past me and I fell out of the loop so to say.

Yeah, that's why I leveled up CNJ first. No matter what, parties always need a healer.

It is true that Primal Fight design has had an effect on the classes people choose to lvl up, but it is equally true to say that human nature's tendency to follow the path of least resistance is to blame.

Call it a symptom of the mass consumption societies that we live in, but people these days just want it all, right now, so they can move on to the next thing and lie to themselves thinking they've already been there done that.

As far as me focusing on the new players so much, it's because not long ago I was a new player. When I heard about how much things had changed and that they were just beginning to change I was intrigued. Then I started hearing rumors about how the game was at release, and of certain exploits that allowed players to amass ludicrous amounts of gil all while the game was free to play and I immediately felt turned off.

That was my first impression. I am afraid if that new players would get a similar off putting impression once they hear about how all the lvl 50s on the server PLd most of their classes for this or that reason. If I were a new player, sure I would choose a fresh server, but as an older player I wouldn't mind seeing an influx of new players on my server. On the other hand I would personally be reluctant to join.