What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[ReynTime]

Yoshida's comment about people looking too deep into the story is so baffling. He saw people stand and applaud Ishikawa because of Shadowbringers' story... Did that not hint that people care more for the story than he thinks...?

Besides they're the ones who keep putting the MSQ front and center when marketing the game. Why is it surprising there are players who witness the plot in more detail than others in such a story driven game?

[Kolsykol]

Yoshida's comment about people looking too deep into the story is so baffling. He saw people stand and applaud Ishikawa because of Shadowbringers' story... Did that not hint that people care more for the story than he thinks...?

Besides they're the ones who keep putting the MSQ front and center when marketing the game. Why is it surprising there are players who witness the plot in more detail than others in such a story driven game?

I dunno what the exact context surrounding that statement is, but I do think there is such a thing as overthinking things.
You can ruin any story by overthinking it and I seriously doubt that what he meant was '' just don't think at all about it bro ''.
I dunno why we need to have the most bad faith interpretation of everything the devs say all the time...

I do this all the time and it's something I kinda need to push back against myself with because I have a tendency to overthink and overanalyze everything to a point where I can't enjoy things and where things just collapse.
Not only about story stuff too but if a game, movie or show presents itself as '' realistic '' then dear lawd my brain will just go full steam ahead and overanalyze everything to a point where everything falls apart and feels dumb to me.
I actually kinda have a hard time enjoying media that tries to be realistic for that reason because everything just stands out to me.

I rewatched the LOTR trilogy extended cuts not long ago too and I was fighting myself quite a bit to just enjoy it and not overthink everything lol.
I can do it, but it's a struggle.
The thing is too that if you enjoy something you'll generally be able to look past it or not do it.
But I think that when people don't enjoy or was disappointed with something then they suddenly begin to do this when they otherwise wouldn't.
It's like that for me too because I love the LOTR trilogy I can watch it and enjoy it, but if I didn't then all of that stuff would stand out a lot more to me and become a much bigger problem.

This was actually rather predictable, if you take the focus off Meteion herself and more onto "The Ancients created their own doom".

People were allllll over that in ShB, as far as I can remember.

I mean, I hate it, of course. I would much rather have had the Final Days be a tragedy that randomly befell a fundamentally good people, some kind of Eldritch being/phenomena the Ancients had nothing to do with and no control over. But they went with blaming the victims, of course. Muh (broken) aesop.

I mean in a sense that's the case, it was only Hermes who had a hand in it and Dynamis was a mysterious power they had no to little control over most people didn't even know it existed.
Meteion was a victim of circumstance too she had no real autonomy in it either, it's sorta like she was an unwilling incarnation of the nihilism of the universe.
Imo at least I kinda like that an Ancient was the origin of the problem even if he didn't directly cause it with his own hands.
I like the idea of a deeply flawed Ancient being capable of causing so many problems, a sort of inevitability of a race of godlike beings.

I think it'd be a bit boring tbh if the Ancients were just all essentially flawless and '' good '', and I think that was clearly not the case and not just Hermes but Hermes was definitely especially flawed.
I dunno where you get the victim blaming from tho.
The Ancients were victims and they weren't at fault either, Hermes was the only one that really held any blame.
Why would you blame a whole group of people because of the actions of one person?