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    I can't even imagine how a person can exist who is totally fine with relic grinds like Eureka but thinks having to do Hildebrand quests is too much work.

    This thread has to be some sort of troll/parody, right? You're all just goofing around and pretending to have your jimmies rustled about this for fun aren't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    I can't even imagine how a person can exist who is totally fine with relic grinds like Eureka but thinks having to do Hildebrand quests is too much work.

    This thread has to be some sort of troll/parody, right? You're all just goofing around and pretending to have your jimmies rustled about this for fun aren't you?
    I don't have an issue with it personally, but I do have some concerns about the relic story along with the potential designs of the relics themselves. Hopefully this is just their way of getting people to do the Hildebrand content by featuring a few of the characters during the relic grind and very little else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    I can't even imagine how a person can exist who is totally fine with relic grinds like Eureka but thinks having to do Hildebrand quests is too much work.

    This thread has to be some sort of troll/parody, right? You're all just goofing around and pretending to have your jimmies rustled about this for fun aren't you?
    Some of us were hoping to have a storyline associated with the relic that took itself seriously at the bare minimum, if it added significantly to the world's lore (Corvos, etc) then that would have been fantastic. We went from Matsuno's writing to Hildibrand. Political intrigue, emotionally charged storytelling. To memes. And yeah, I'd much rather do some of the more engaging raids in this game to unlock my relic than Hildibrand's series of fates and pushover trials.

    Instead of encouraging the playerbase to improve and do better, they pivot away from some any content that might suggest the notion in favor of haha borgor funny and the gazeebo nonsense. Bonus points if Tweetingway shows up in this relic questline. The crowd who is so enamoured by the likes of Hildibrand should not be catered to on this scale, with the MSQ ridden with fluff and more memes than substance at times and now the relic is also subjected to this.

    This is a Final Fantasy game at the end of the day, that means having a good balance of what is haha funny and what is actually involved storytelling. Seems like if I want the latter I have to wait until Summer 2023 when FFXVI comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    This is a Final Fantasy game at the end of the day, that means having a good balance of what is haha funny and what is actually involved storytelling. Seems like if I want the latter I have to wait until Summer 2023 when FFXVI comes out.
    I agree they should be balanced, and considering Shadowbringers skipped out on funny entirely and there wasn't any Hildibrand content for several years it makes sense for the pendulum to swing back the other way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    I agree they should be balanced, and considering Shadowbringers skipped out on funny entirely and there wasn't any Hildibrand content for several years it makes sense for the pendulum to swing back the other way.
    ShB had "cute" flying pigs as the solution to tempering. It had matoya's relict,dwarves,beast tribes, il mheg playground, scion anime moment, graha worship moments, etc etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    I can't even imagine how a person can exist who is totally fine with relic grinds like Eureka but thinks having to do Hildebrand quests is too much work.

    This thread has to be some sort of troll/parody, right? You're all just goofing around and pretending to have your jimmies rustled about this for fun aren't you?
    Nobody complained about "too much work". People complained about having to do something very unfun, and the relics potentially looking like an absolute joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    Nobody complained about "too much work". People complained about having to do something very unfun, and the relics potentially looking like an absolute joke.
    It's literally in the OP, my guy.

    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Not sure whether they were being actually serious about this or not, but either way it's bad form to require such an absurdly long questline to be completed before we can do this expansion’s relic. I don’t even think Ivalice is as time consuming, and at least acts as a skill check on the playerbase.

    Just why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenlao View Post
    I'm very confused how many people bring this argument, mostly because doing Hildi is just the prerequisite. I'm quite confident that we'll get our usual grindy relic steps after it as the expansion progresses.
    I don't know, why would they be called Manderville weapons, if Hildebrand was only a requirement? It's true that we don't know the specifics yet, but the name + the progrssion being quest-based seems to point out that the progression/grind will be just more Hildiverse shenanigans.
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  10. 07-02-2022 10:22 AM