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  1. #111
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    VelKallor's Avatar
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    Vel Kallor
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    Stop trolling. Relic weapons have been stronger than current content, only second to savage weapons.
    As I said, they could easily be glamour weapons as well. How about we WAIT and get more details?
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  2. #112
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    Gigiwazu Sunkeeper
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    Horrendous decision.

    "But everyone likes it, you're wrong".

    *sigh*
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  3. #113
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    Cain Andleft
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    It's probably due to costs. Hildy questlines are pretty expensive to design from an animation/camera angle standpoint.

    Though Relic weapons have always been a staple - yet not a mandatory quest to do. I don't see a problem to combine both. As everyone knows... relics are pretty much optional. You just basically grab it for glamour. It will take quite a while before it can even become the highest stats for a weapon - generally near end-expansion, so it's generally faster to grab a raid-weapon /tomestone gear weapon instead.

    Plus, it's a huge timesink to spend. Having the Hildebrand questline tied into this... doesn't seem much of a difference? You're already spending a huge timesink to get the weapon anyway. Seeing that you can skip hildebrand cutscenes if you don't like them, it's not much of a difference.
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  4. #114
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    Kranel_San's Avatar
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    Krann Starwarden
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    I don’t even think Ivalice is as time consuming
    Ivalice took me a full day to complete and that was AFTER ShB relics were a thing in-game.
    Meanwhile, we have Hildibrand questline requirement now, which you can complete in a couple of hours and even less if you skip all dialogues and cutscenes (The latter which is lengthy and contributes the most to the length of Hildibrand questlines)
    Also, Hildibrand SB trial has an absurd long queue time, and with Hildibrand being a requirement now, it would help boost the queue times on Hildibrand duties.

    So far I only see positive points here, with the only negative point being locking the relic weapons behind a questline, but that's not the first time and I think it's the standard now.
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  5. #115
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    Mika_Zahard's Avatar
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    Mika Zahard
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Nooo Yoshi samaaa, I don't want to do that.
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  6. #116
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    Voldara Lowlands
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    Warrior Lv 90
    My main issue is, they know a lot (or at least a reasonable amount) of people don't like Hildibrand, given that they took the step of not locking trials behind it (admittedly they removed that because if people don't want to do it they probably don't care about the trial) so then if they know that people really don't like it (I for one can't stand that kind of "humour") so to force that on people, regardless of cutscene skipping, just seems like a dick move to me. I think I'd rather skip the rest of the expansion, than do Hildibrand, even with cutscene skipping.
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    Last edited by Voldara; 07-01-2022 at 10:44 PM.

  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    That sounds more like a you problem.
    Hildi has been here since ARR. He wouldn't still be here if he wasn't popular. Skip it if you don't care. Problem solved.
    Cool, who asked or cares if Hildibrand is popular? Has literally nothing to do with what I said. They're tying something I enjoy (the relic storylines and relic quests) to something I do not like. I'm allowed to be disappointed and upset about that, you know? If you don't like or care about my posts, sounds like you should skip them. Problem solved.
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  8. #118
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    Youkulm's Avatar
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    Arle Egress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voldara View Post
    given that they took the step of not locking trials behind it
    But there is trials locked behind it. 3 if I recall correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hundred View Post
    These forums are so melodramatic I feel like I'm watching a latin soap opera.
    Any moment now it will be revealed that WHM is cheating on SCH with MNK after having had DRG's baby and DRG is WHM's cousin who is already married to PLD.

  9. #119
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    What a great decision. Hildibrand is some of the games best content, and judging by this thread, it's obvious there are many who need to have their hand forced a bit.
    They might have their hand forced, but not in the way you may think. Skipping it, for example. Or, for some, unsubbing, as it is yet another addition in a growing stack of content they don't like.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 07-01-2022 at 10:46 PM.

  10. #120
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    I don't know. In my eyes, I think SE should really evaluate whether or not to work on content they feel they need to merge with a relic questline in order to get players to do it. I mean they continue to work on things like this when things like instanced housing, deep dungeons, and reducing bots are among the highest in demand.

    Besides, how can you truly know which players truly enjoy the Hildabrand questline when you make it a requirement for something they do actually want? Do you want to force content down our throats, or actually give players the ability to choose which content they go into?
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