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  1. 07-01-2022 01:09 PM
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    Not productive of me.

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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Shadowflare - Ward Miasma II, Plot Broil IV
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    Mira Clearweaver
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Not a SMN main myself, but they’re one of my more frequently used amongst DPS jobs.

    I think the only gameplay perk I found missing is the distinction between Bahamut vs Phoenix phases. The two felt way too similar.

    The reason why I kinda disliked Bahamut pet AI in ShB was because their Wyrmwave was tied to their summoner finishing their GCD casts. Now that they have made Wyrmwaves procs independently, I would expect now we would still retain two trances: one immobile but hard hitting (Bahamut) & another mobile but less hard hitting (Phoenix, still hits harder than legos obviously). But no, they’ve outright removed those nuances by making both almost identical.

    Also why do they remove the alternating 1-2 rotation on Phoenix phase? I personally liked those better than the current one Especially the 2nd button animation—I won’t get to see them in boss encounters…

    Bio & Miasma removal is up in the air imho. Rotation wise I don't see any problem it'll impose by adding them back, but it feels rather shallow if it exist currently for the sake of 'to be there', if that makes any sense.
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 07-01-2022 at 02:30 PM.

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    stellahawke's Avatar
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    Stella Clegane
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Given you have been complaining about current summoner for nearly 7 months now I doubt you need me to bump this for you. Have. A great night!
    and if you want yes men who don't see anything wrong with the class and get triggered with any criticism go back to reddit. at least with the forums people who are critical of the class dont get overflowed with people saying, get over it and pick a different class. if there is something wrong with the class people would and should be vocal about it. it would be a completely different story if this was a 100% new class instead of killing the old class to make this one.
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    ZephyrMenodora's Avatar
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    Zephyr Menodora
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by stellahawke View Post
    and if you want yes men who don't see anything wrong with the class and get triggered with any criticism go back to reddit. at least with the forums people who are critical of the class dont get overflowed with people saying, get over it and pick a different class. if there is something wrong with the class people would and should be vocal about it. it would be a completely different story if this was a 100% new class instead of killing the old class to make this one.
    I'm not triggered at all. I like the class I get to actually play in the game right now.

    I'm sorry it seems like the people in this sub-forum don't enjoy it, and everyone who felt the class has been a huge "bait and switch" since release. I can respect not wanting an entirely different class every few years, so I can agree on that.

    Though I love current summoner, in the back of my mind I worry they will dramatically change it again come next expansion - as I've already experienced several times with this class, so I do know what that feels like.

    As someone that hates the removal of but one skill on Samaurai, I can appreciate people look at the current Summoner and ask, "WTF is this class now?"
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 07-02-2022 at 02:18 AM. Reason: typos

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