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  1. #1
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    '' -Mismanaged community expectations regarding Island Sanctuary, with widespread disappointment imminent from people who were led to believe it was the equivalent of instanced housing. ''

    I don't really agree with this at all, they've barely said anything about it it's the players that are hyping it up and building up what they want with speculation.
    It's the same with Criterion dungeons too, the devs haven't rly said anything about them except that they're a thing and people I think have built up expectations themselves that will probably not be lived up to.
    It's better to just go on what they say and not take speculation too seriously and not base ones expectations based on nothing.
    I don't think it's rly their fault that people in the community does this and I don't think they should have to treat us like children and come out and try to micro-manage it.
    I rly don't think the devs should have to constantly walk on egg shells.

    I am definitely a bit worried about DRG tho, if they're gonna change anything I hope it's in regards to their dmg buffs, 3 buffs does feel like too much imo and Dragon Sight while yes it's more unique it's also annoying to use.
    I hope that they're either merging some buffs like Dragon Sight and Battle Litany/ Lance Charge or that they make it like a Dance Partner buff.
    That you just put it on someone and then when you use it that target gets tethered, I don't think having to target swap for it is a good thing especially not when DRG Is already so busy with ogcd's.
    I don't think they should touch the base rotation of DRG at all tho, DRG plays very well atm.
    However I think something that definitely is possible is that they'll try and make it so that delaying Life of the Dragon isn't a thing anymore because it's '' too big brain '' for casuals or something...

    I am expecting Kaiten to return too, but it's going to make the skills crit instead as people have suggested before.
    I don't think the next expansion will revolve around the Void tho, the Void is just tied to the Ascians and I think it's a plot point they want to tie up before 7.0.
    I think 7.0 will be like a clean slate of sorts and something totally new and have nothing to do with the Void.

    A lot of this per usual tho is pointlessly loaded, I dunno why we have to do this every time the tone for the discussions just become set in stone from the get go and unnecessarily hyperbolic.
    We can talk about this without having to make the devs sound evil or like everything is a catastrophy.
    If you've really been around since 2013 you should remember that people have been talking like this since ARR and they're not universally agreed on issues.
    Just because you have loud people on the forum about the MSQ doesn't mean that it's some widespread opinion that they need to adress.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    That would be the first sign of trouble, followed by real fun statements like "We are cutting dungeons down to one per patch to focus on polish!", which is then compounded by the game being swarmed by yes-men that will shoo any dirty criticism away from the devs.

    Cue the music, Johnny!
    I don't think that '' Criterion dungeon '' is going to be or have anything to do with the new MSQ dungeon, so that would entail more than one.
    Depending on what it actually is ofc.

    I rly don't think any substantial amount of people are against criticism a lot of the criticism is quite commonly accepted and espoused.
    The constant whining and hyperbole gets annoying and just makes it harder to even communicate it to the devs tho.
    There's a difference between actual constructive and genuine criticism and negative feedback and just blatant whining and negative circlejerking.

    How you deliver the feedback is actually quite important.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 06-30-2022 at 11:33 PM.

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    Kazelus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    '' -Mismanaged community expectations regarding Island Sanctuary, with widespread disappointment imminent from people who were led to believe it was the equivalent of instanced housing. ''

    I don't really agree with this at all, they've barely said anything about it it's the players that are hyping it up and building up what they want with speculation.
    It's the same with Criterion dungeons too, the devs haven't rly said anything about them except that they're a thing and people I think have built up expectations themselves that will probably not be lived up to.
    It's better to just go on what they say and not take speculation too seriously and not base ones expectations based on nothing.
    I don't think it's rly their fault that people in the community does this and I don't think they should have to treat us like children and come out and try to micro-manage it.
    I rly don't think the devs should have to constantly walk on egg shells.
    The problem is that, they have not been clear on what it's supposed to be and for the island, people jumped on instanced because housing is a probleme in this game, for criterion, it's the lack of difficult content in light party that made people expects it to be a more challenging dungeon.
    If they not meet the expectations after announcing content that "looks like" a solution to some problem the player have in the game, then perhaps, they should have be more clear when making the announcement about what it's supposed to be...
    I don't expect housing in island but more a sorts of garden with your minions so nothing really big...
    And Criterion will be dungeon that will adjust their difficulty based on the number of players inside, and will be similar that actual dungeon in difficulty or easier...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I don't think the next expansion will revolve around the Void tho, the Void is just tied to the Ascians and I think it's a plot point they want to tie up before 7.0.
    I think 7.0 will be like a clean slate of sorts and something totally new and have nothing to do with the Void.
    I believe the void will be MSQ for next patch but will go into the new trials story during it. I believe next expansion will either be centered around meracydia and the rest of Ilsabard. Eventually, we may travel to another reflect to bring a new story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    How you deliver the feedback is actually quite important.
    But after a while when one side no longer listens it makes sense that the other side will get louder. That said, we have a 2 page thread about the new glamour item in the mogshop for 22 dollars. People are defending a 22 dollar cosmetic item in a game with a subscription cost. What a mess we made, indeed. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    People are defending a 22 dollar cosmetic item in a game with a subscription cost.
    I don't see a lot of defense, mostly excitement. I am seeing quite a bit of criticism over the price. I really only like the jacket but the one character only thing would make it cost ~$400 for me so that's a "hard pass" like pretty much every character specific outfit.
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