Rewritten MSQ - Garlemald and EW

[TimotheusReed]

I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one, I fundamentally do not like the idea of a fantasy world left bereft of the forces that once dominated it. I do not think using religion as a plot point moving forward is worth the player’s time because at this point the player is aware of most in-game mysteries – except for whatever is going on with the Twelve.

I honestly really like the idea of a world bereft of its gods. I mean most of the gods we encountered weren't even real gods or even their own individual entities. They were manifested wishes and prayers.
Born from the wishes and prayers of mortal beings or the Ascians.

This is also not the first FF game, where the game continues after the forces which once controlled the world were eradicated. FFX-2 and FF XIII for example did the same thing.
I didn't really like both games that much tbh, but I still find the idea interesting. Because many FF games end with the defeat of a god etc. or the forces which once controlled the world.
And I always was interested on how the world will continue after that. FFX-2 and FFXIII explored the aftermath for example. And I like it that FFXIV does it too.

There is always potential for new entities, gods or enemies to appear, because the whole concept of aether is so flexible.
Even stronger foes than the ones we already faced are potentially possible.

There is also a lot that is still unknown about the nature of aether in general and a lot of potential for new forces to establish themselves.
There still are a lot of mysteries and things even the Ascians didn't know. For example we discovered time travel before the Ascians did.
There might also be other forces in the universe we don't know about. FFXIV doesn't necessarily need gods and all-powerful beings. There are also a lot of other Final Fantasy games which didn't need gods to establish a good plot.

I mean even we as WoLs are not all-powerful gods and we did defeat those beings with the help of others. There can still be beings which have similar WoL-like powers.
Or maybe other entities could find a way to rob us of our powers and infuse our WoL blessing onto themselves.

I would like a plot, where the power of the WoL gets stolen and someone else uses our power. There are a lot of possibilities.

[EgilTheStressedMage]

Also that Hydaelyn fight concept is very reminiscent of Xenoblade’s final boss, yet another good direction if they did it right. Because unless Yoshida’s goal is to troll his customers, I don’t see how he thought what we got was fine.

[Raoabolic]

...Because unless Yoshida’s goal is to troll his customers...

*looks at the cruise chaser mount in the cash shop*
He knows what he is doing, lol.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Also that Hydaelyn fight concept is very reminiscent of Xenoblade’s final boss, yet another good direction if they did it right. Because unless Yoshida’s goal is to troll his customers, I don’t see how he thought what we got was fine.

I and many others do for the record. No trolling detected

[EgilTheStressedMage]

*looks at the cruise chaser mount in the cash shop*
He knows what he is doing, lol.

laughs in Regalia

[DPZ2]

Base Premise: .

This would have been more appropriate as a fanfiction submission to AO3. Please consider it for your next attempt.

I would probably have not read more than a chapter or two, though, because entire expansions before the story would have to be rewritten. I might not even have read the story at all if the tag "evil Venat" was included (and, believe me, if it was not included, you'd get a dressing down in the comments for omitting it).

[aveyond-dreams]

Story set at the end of the world with hamburger eating, overt fanservice for twitter and streamers, and no consequences to any main party members: not fanfiction

Story that made an attempt to give underused characters somewhat of an arc, flesh out highly anticipated areas and characters in order to give them their agency back: fanfiction

With all due respect please play another Final Fantasy game or any number of recent rpgs where the story is able to take itself more seriously.

[whitemoonflower]

Story set at the end of the world with hamburger eating, overt fanservice for twitter and streamers, and no consequences to any main party members: not fanfiction

Story that made an attempt to give underused characters somewhat of an arc, flesh out highly anticipated areas and characters in order to give them their agency back: fanfiction

With all due respect please play another Final Fantasy game or any number of recent rpgs where the story is able to take itself more seriously.

It’s the shade of cognitive dissonance that emerges when people wrap something so tightly in their own pride that they can’t see it objectively anymore. They supposedly want the best for XIV, but critiquing it would be admitting that it’s less than perfect. One would hope to see the community meet different perspectives, creative ideas, and a sincere desire to see the game bettered with, at minimum, respectful consideration. But many “love the game so much” that they reject it all in favor of a stagnant echo chamber.

If you truly love something, you don’t ignore it’s flaws. Because you’re out to complain or are unappreciative? Absolutely not. It’s because you want to see it thrive that you’re willing to take the time, share your thoughts, face the backlash, and make an effort when silence would’ve been the easier route. So again, thank you for sharing.

[Knot_D]

I would like a plot, where the power of the WoL gets stolen and someone else uses our power. There are a lot of possibilities.

Already happened on Garlemand instance

[Theodric]

Already happened on Garlemand instance

Which, unfortunately, amounted to absolutely nothing. Not even one of the Scions being injured.