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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Fairplay
    Which is why grandfathering exists. No rules were broken, so why is someone getting punished? What else are they going to take away from you retroactively if they start this?

    How long has it been since you played that class? Well after three months you clearly don't remember it, so let's drop you a few levels.

    You have a Firmament title on your alt? How dare you take away a limited thing from someone else. That's gone too.

    Or you could act like an adult and stop using grossly subjective words like "fair" in your argument as if they actually mean the same thing to everyone. Hey, I play this game three times as much as you do, so it's only fair that I get there bids on a house to your one, right?
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Fairplay
    In short you don't have a clue what that means. The Director and dev team do however.
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  3. #53
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    Marcelloix Ostoiraint
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    house

    i have one fc and one privade house so by the rules i am safe till they change the rules again.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    In short you don't have a clue what that means. The Director and dev team do however.
    Fairplay to all to be on common ground, the Director should take a stance against grandfathering, and get over it, there is no way you can justify 3-4-5-6-30 houses on one paid account, and is not fairplay to all other who may only get within limitations now and too come.

    It may sound silly in your ears, and not fair, if you fall outside the suggestion range, but not in those 1000s of players who is looking for a roof over their head other than an apartment or FC room it does not.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    Which is why grandfathering exists. No rules were broken, so why is someone getting punished? What else are they going to take away from you retroactively if they start this?

    How long has it been since you played that class? Well after three months you clearly don't remember it, so let's drop you a few levels.

    You have a Firmament title on your alt? How dare you take away a limited thing from someone else. That's gone too.

    Or you could act like an adult and stop using grossly subjective words like "fair" in your argument as if they actually mean the same thing to everyone. Hey, I play this game three times as much as you do, so it's only fair that I get there bids on a house to your one, right?
    We are speaking of a ressource, that is not gone to people, it is a glance over the ToS and then making the public statement, that, that is how it is.

    When you speak of event stuff, then it is stuff that is up for a limited time, as for jobs, it is something there is there for all with no limitations, as for housing it is a limited ressource and people exploit or have exploited features to have more than one.

    IT makes no sense if rules only apply to the mob and not a select few who was fortunate to exploit the system when they could and not fall into line with the current ones, and as for those that has wards...or many houses same ward, it contradicts the Director/Devs ideals of a neighborhood, as can't be two places at once.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by mauiestlauiest View Post
    HAH. When I tell you the dissent you are about to get over this. The people with 8 different FC and 8 different FC houses per DC are going to go after you.
    They can, and they may, as long as they stay within the ToS, do I care? Not really.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    We are speaking of a ressource, that is not gone to people, it is a glance over the ToS and then making the public statement, that, that is how it is.

    When you speak of event stuff, then it is stuff that is up for a limited time, as for jobs, it is something there is there for all with no limitations, as for housing it is a limited ressource and people exploit or have exploited features to have more than one.

    IT makes no sense if rules only apply to the mob and not a select few who was fortunate to exploit the system when they could and not fall into line with the current ones, and as for those that has wards...or many houses same ward, it contradicts the Director/Devs ideals of a neighborhood, as can't be two places at once.
    Once again, showing that "fair" is subjective. Thank you for proving my point.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    there is no way you can justify 3-4-5-6-30 houses on one paid account
    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    1000s of players who is looking for a roof over their head other than an apartment or FC room
    Will punishing people for playing inside the rules really do much when there are "1000s of players...looking for a roof"?

    Better to push SE to deal with the real problem, rather than just bandaiding over the real problem more hoping to hide it from view for another 18 days (2 cycles).
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  9. #59
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    Disagree,

    No one likes to be punished for following the rules - if you change the rules at a later date you are choosing to punish people if you retroactively enforce rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Fairplay to all to be on common ground, the Director should take a stance against grandfathering, and get over it, there is no way you can justify 3-4-5-6-30 houses on one paid account, and is not fairplay to all other who may only get within limitations now and too come.

    It may sound silly in your ears, and not fair, if you fall outside the suggestion range, but not in those 1000s of players who is looking for a roof over their head other than an apartment or FC room it does not.
    What if I run 8 FC's with players in them other then myself?
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