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    Wow I love being blamed for Healing problems as melee /s.
    This was with Healing issues the entire way through too, we did quite a lot of pulls and every pull I could feel the lack of Healing and Shielding.

    ( I cut out some of the others because there was much much more ).

    (Idiot Healer): ppl are neither pressing buttons, be that damage or mitigation
    (Idiot Healer): and dont know how to do mechanics to boot
    (Idiot Healer): in like what
    (Idiot Healer): week24?
    (Other DPS): i died to pure dmg
    (Me): I used all mitigation I had
    (Other DPS): after using second wind
    (Another DPS): same
    (Another DPS): same
    (Tank): i used all mines
    (Other Tank): same
    (Idiot Healer): you died because ppl blasted their bits on one thing and then absolutely had nothing
    (Idiot Healer): or were sitting on it
    (Idiot Healer): not using it
    (Idiot Healer): for easily 5 mins
    (Idiot Healer): in other ppls cases
    (Idiot Healer): so sort your stuff out
    (Idiot Healer): i want to see things like addle and feint more frequently
    (Me): I literally used it lol
    (Other DPS): i think im the only one using feint
    (Me): when I said everything I mean everything
    (Tank): lets try again
    (Me): it'd be silly to blame lack of feint for wipe tho
    (Idiot Healer): "used it all"
    (Me): and yes I still used it
    (Idiot Healer): SAM - 2 feints in 8 mins
    (Idiot Healer): out of what
    (Idiot Healer): 5 possible?
    (Idiot Healer): 4 or 5


    (Me): don't ????ing blame me
    (Me): I said I used it
    Battle commencing in 22 seconds!
    (Tank)
    Battle commencing in 15 seconds!
    Battle commencing in 10 seconds!
    Battle commencing in 5 seconds!
    Engage!
    (Idiot Healer): do your job first before you make us do ours harder
    (Idiot Healer): also that was just an example
    (Me): I told you I used it
    (Idiot Healer): feint was generally underused
    (Me): I used literally all mit I have now stfu
    (Idiot Healer): u used
    (Idiot Healer): 2
    (Idiot Healer): out of what
    (Idiot Healer): 5
    (Me): I am using it every time on big AoE
    (Other DPS): just go
    (Idiot Healer): thats less than half
    (Other DPS): pls wtf
    (Me): stop blaming others rofl
    (Idiot Healer): this is ssavage
    (Idiot Healer): not extreme
    (Idiot Healer): use your tools
    (Other DPS): ye and not ulrimate
    (Other DPS): lets go
    (Tank): man cmon we got this
    (Me): I've told you a billion times that I am using it
    (Idiot Healer): i'd demand 5 if it was ultimate
    (Idiot Healer): 3 is plenty
    Battle commencing in 22 seconds!
    Battle commencing in 15 seconds!
    (Idiot Healer): and I as healer am telling you
    Battle commencing in 10 seconds!
    (Tank) dam it
    (Idiot Healer): you are not using it enough
    Battle commencing in 5 seconds!
    Countdown canceled by you.
    (Me): alright
    (Me): Since Idiot Healer is an idiot Imma go
    (Other DPS) :c

    What an absolute moron, I actually did get legit mad.
    This was after wiping to Enrage in P4S Phase 2, I was desperately holding on for dear life it was like no healing was going out at all ( again this was a consistent problem I noticed ).

    I use all of my defensive tools every time I am doing this, even if I didn't ( WHICH I FREAKING DID ) it still wouldn't have changed a bit because we simply weren't getting shields and heals.
    This was a SCH too btw, and I don't think we got a single shield in the last phase.

    Sry to rest of group but I ain't dealing with that bs, I don't want to play with people like that.

    Edit: Also we had issues with a Healer not soaking Towers in Act 3 and going the wrong directions in Act 2, go figure.
    Also I DO use Feint actively on big AoE dmg, and I DID use it on the last phase too and we STILL died.
    How the hell is it my fault rofl.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 06-29-2022 at 12:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Wow I love being blamed for Healing problems as melee /s.
    This was with Healing issues the entire way through too, we did quite a lot of pulls and every pull I could feel the lack of Healing and Shielding.
    Sounds like the healer was using a naughty tool.
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    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

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    Feint won't save you on Curtain Call. If your group sees both rounds of Curtain Call, as a healer you forget all about your dps log and heal spam. Healer indeed sounded like an idiot.

    Also while frequent use of mitigation is good, the only serious damage in Part 2 is Act 4 and Curtain Call. The rest of the fight is a whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
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    Was your second healer saying anything? I tend to confront bad co-healers after the first or second pull on which we have wiped because of lack of heals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katoar View Post
    Was your second healer saying anything? I tend to confront bad co-healers after the first or second pull on which we have wiped because of lack of heals.
    I can't remember the second Healer saying anything, tbh I am not the type of person to get really hung up on failure unless it's a kill group for the first time and people are blatantly lying and trying to get carried.
    That's when I have very little patience especially after spending whole weeks repeatedly trying to get a kill before and then having ppl join when they can't get past the first phase.

    Reason why the case in question upset me was because I was being blamed for the failure when it wasn't my fault.
    I've never healed P4S past Act 3 so I dunno how intense it is at the end, but I felt like it was a shielding issue for the most part at least.
    Because I never saw any shields coming out and it was the SCH that was blaming me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I use all of my defensive tools every time I am doing this, even if I didn't ( WHICH I FREAKING DID ) it still wouldn't have changed a bit because we simply weren't getting shields and heals.
    This was a SCH too btw, and I don't think we got a single shield in the last phase.
    Boss targeted debuffs don't reduce damage from tether breaking AoE-s during Curtain Call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katoar View Post
    Boss targeted debuffs don't reduce damage from tether breaking AoE-s during Curtain Call.
    Not sure about that one tbh, but unless I am mistaken it does against the recurring big casted AoE at least.
    If what you're saying is true tho then that makes the SCH's complaint even sillier rofl.

    But yeah sometimes I wonder if target debuffs on bosses work when it's things like tethers or towers exploding.

    Edit: I wish I had known this so I could've brought it up to make them look dumb tbh lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Not sure about that one tbh, but unless I am mistaken it does against the recurring big casted AoE at least.
    No wait, I was wrong. I remembered it incorrectly. Reviewed resources of my logs, when tether breaks the damage source is Hesperos 14 or some other number but if Addle or Feint was applied on Hesperos, the damage of Hemitheos's Dark IV was reduced. My bad sorry.

    But still, not a reason for SCH to behave like that. Logs are for log runs. Reclears are for gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katoar View Post
    No wait, I was wrong. I remembered it incorrectly. Reviewed resources of my logs, when tether breaks the damage source is Hesperos 14 or some other number but if Addle or Feint was applied on Hesperos, the damage of Hemitheos's Dark IV was reduced. My bad sorry.

    But still, not a reason for SCH to behave like that. Logs are for log runs. Reclears are for gear.
    Oh okay xD, tbh I wish it was a bit more clear without logs when the damage is reduced.
    Like maybe it could say '' -10% '' on the side or something, same with what type of damage it is magical or physical if they had different colors.
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