More content for solo players?

[Elgorian]

Just 1 question for the OP that wants more fighting "solo" content.

Do you have a Butcher's Crown?

If the answer is No.

You have content to do.

If the answer is Yes.

There are so many other battle related Achievements to work on...

EDIT:

It's an MMO,

M U L T I P L A Y E R (That doesn't mean Solo)

If you'd like some awesome Solo games.... I know some good ones....

[Peptaru]

Why do people keep thinking that multiplayer means party, it just means more than one person sharing the same virtual world.... multi = more than one... player = player.... it isn't MMOPartyRPG. This "if you want a solo game go find a single player offline game" statement is so repetitive and bland it almost makes me vomit. If you don't like to solo, or fail miserably at it, you shouldn't care if they add more of it, you can ignore it.

[Sortis]

FF11 had plenty of stuff you could do solo.

Leveling your companions for example, or the "solo" content in teh past defending the cities from the beastmen...
Even in Aht Urghan(sp?) you could do a defense were everyone would gather even if you didnt have anyone to play with you were able to do it and got rewarded for it.

Also, what you said made no sense...do you know what "solo" content is?

You're right, but i'm fairly certain that stuff wasn't in the game the first year, actually I know it wasn't cause it was in JP first year and 2nd year it hit america, that stuff you're mentioning wasn't in the game for 3-4 years. =\ I understand you want more content, but the game is a special circumstance, they're trying to gut it and re-do it in time for the beginning of next year, just try to be patient. =\

[Searious]

If you want solo content go play a one player game.

go away. >_>

[Asiaine]

I'll make a brief list of Solo Friendly content from FFXI:

FoV/Garrison

Farming - 100's a things to farm (Small ingredients, trigs for NMs (ie Alky, Pallas, etc), pricey items (Iolite from Corses)etc

NM Hunting

Quest's - City Quests, random side quests, etc

Exploration... I did this alot. Pretty zones!

There was so much more.. but even with the small list above there was so much to keep one occupied, and having fun for hours upon hours.

There is literally nothing fun to do in FFXIV that will keep me stationed for more than 30 mins.

I must admit this has me a bit confused..
Farming: There is a bit of farming one can do here (besides totems). A lot of it can be used for crafting or sold in the AH to be crafted. I remember spending days farming plume feathers? to sell in the AH. Now I can do the same here too! (joy...)

Quests: I think most (if not all?) of the Main storyline and sidequests and class quests can be soloed. Some of the Job quests and Faction Leve quests, no, but that is a small percentage I think (and it is fair there be some that require a group). This is in sharp contest to FFXI's quests where a lot of them required parties (CoP, Rank9, etc.?)

Exploration: Lots to explore here, but yes, not as beautiful as in Vana'diel. Parts look nice, for the first 10 minutes.... the next one hour you are usually 'wait, wasn't I just here?'

But I think it is important to keep in mind that there is still plenty of Solo content for those who want to spend some quality time alone.

All of DoH and DoL are aimed at solo play.

Granted, it may not be what some specific people want, but nonetheless it is there. And it is enjoyed by many.

So whereas yes, I can agree there could be some more solo-friendly content (especally around the areas of DoW, obtaining semi-rare equipment, or challenging fights/quests), I would not go so far as to suggest we are solo-player content poor.

[InfiniDragon]

I am so tired of this response (it's not just you Agoven, so this isn't personal).

Have you people ever played another MMO besides FFXI?

Every single MMO (except FFXI) has 1000's of quests which are primarily done solo. It has always been this way and always should be.

Every MMO (except FFXI) has Class/Job quests & Storylines that you can complete solo and at your own pace. It has always been this way and always should be.

Every MMO also has Party-based content that you either need a full party to complete or need to be "over-leveled" in order to complete with a short party or solo.

FFXI was and still is the one and only exception to having tons of solo content and imo is the main reason it was never more popular than it was.

Yes the "point" of an MMO is to play with other people but not all the time 24/7, 7 days a week.

Please stop with this failed "go play a single player offline game" crap. It is really getting old and is just not factual.

p.s. Sorry for the rant...going to bed now...obviously need sleep cuz am getting cranky (although I am old so I am allowed) ;>P

Basically this. Thank you.

This should be repeated anytime someone says that MMOs should not have content for solo players because it's an MMO. Ideally it should cater to someone who may not have the ability to get a group together quickly as well as those that do. Take Dark Souls for an example. Not an MMO sure, but it's big focus is isolation. A lone adventurer against an army of baddies...yet that game also has the option to summon friends if you choose it.

Saying you shouldn't play an MMO if you want solo content is a copout. The game should of course have good party content, but having good solo content can only help the game more and not hurt it. Because newsflash; if people really enforced this kind of logic half of the crafters who don't prefer to play combat classes wouldn't be here because there's no such thing as party play for crafters.

[Gramul]

Does that make it anything more than a glorified chat room though?

[Rowyne]

I am so tired of this response (it's not just you Agoven, so this isn't personal).

Have you people ever played another MMO besides FFXI?

Every single MMO (except FFXI) has 1000's of quests which are primarily done solo. It has always been this way and always should be.

Every MMO (except FFXI) has Class/Job quests & Storylines that you can complete solo and at your own pace. It has always been this way and always should be.

Every MMO also has Party-based content that you either need a full party to complete or need to be "over-leveled" in order to complete with a short party or solo.

FFXI was and still is the one and only exception to having tons of solo content and imo is the main reason it was never more popular than it was.

Yes the "point" of an MMO is to play with other people but not all the time 24/7, 7 days a week.

Please stop with this failed "go play a single player offline game" crap. It is really getting old and is just not factual.

I'm so glad someone finally came out and said this.

I don't see how giving players the option of solo content harms those who want to party. Why can't we have both? That other game with over 10 million subscribers gives players that option. In fact, FFXI is the only MMO I've ever played that didn't allow you to progress through a variety of quests and other content that can be completed solo.

Does that make it anything more than a glorified chat room though?

If that's the way someone chooses to play after a hard day's work, so be it. I work in customer service, and there are days I'm tired of dealing with people, but I still want to log on and play. And there are times I craft in silence, just watching LS chat. And it is pretty much playing a game with a chat room inside.

And there are times I want to party up and do serious group content like raids and dungeons. And other times where I want to do not so serious group content like Behests (not to get off topic, but I really hope they expand more on this concept in the future). And often I just want to duo with my husband and spend time with him and no one else. I don't feel like doing the same kind of content all the time.

If I wanted a game where I needed five other people at all times just to wipe my nose... I won't even say it, it's becoming cliche at this point. >.<

[Irana]

Does that make it anything more than a glorified chat room though?

I could counter this with "Doesnt teh current game not make it more or less a glorified voice chat room?" I spend my days on mumble laughing with my LS members while doing the party content.


Again, I dont get why people are so quick to anger...Im not asking to let me solo ifrit (though ....why not in the future?) Im asking for more solo CONTENT not to "solo"ify the current content.

Maybe rework how company leves work? Standing in place waiting for a single mob to come attack npc for 15 minutes...is NOT entertaining.

[Asiaine]

I'm so glad someone finally came out and said this.

I don't see how giving players the option of solo content harms those who want to party. ....

I think it (the option of solo content) does right now harm those who want to party. And I think there is some evidence to this.....

It is possible to easily solo to level 15.. 20.. 30.. and in some case considered simpler/easier to do so.

This means someone who wants to party at level 15 will have greater difficulty in finding a group of people.

When I first ventured here, it was basically told to me: Go do leves or get PLed until 30, then you can go to Ul'Dah and try to get a party.

If there was NO solo content (inability to do any leves and levelling on mobs was as difficult here as in Vana'diel), we would all be running around the dunes with our flag up getting parties at level 13.


So yes, too much solo content can harm those seeking party play. (And this was just one example, there are plenty more).

I'm not saying we should have no solo content, or less solo content, or more solo content.
I think it is more of a matter of WHAT content is solo, and WHAT content is not.
I also truly believe that the 'pressure/encouragement' to 'party' more often than 'going solo' is one of the differentiators for Final Fantasy and truly sets it apart from the 'Every single MMO' out there.