Request: Change FC Chest access defaults for new members

[Caitlinzulu]

The phisher can just transfer the gil directly to the mule and i bet they have bot programs to do the clicking so it would be a minor inconvenience.

[bloop1564]

To close any proposed measure you made would hinder normal players while only slightly inconvenience those swindlers.

The phisher can just transfer the gil directly to the mule and i bet they have bot programs to do the clicking so it would be a minor inconvenience.

I would rather minor inconvenience the phisher than have them go through no obstacles at all. lol. Plus my suggestions would only hinder normal players for 7 days, so a short time. Besides, if it was something they reallyyyyyy needed to transfer within 7 days, 1:1 trade is still a thing.

There is, avoid being hacked in the first place.
Using 2FA makes it a whole lot more difficult.

100000% agree. My friend has learned their lesson and implemented 2FA immediately after getting their account back. Maybe if anything, SE needs to implement mandatory 2FA for new/existing accounts. Of course social engineering will still make people get hacked, but at least it'll be harder... ish.

[MilkieTea]

1:1 trade is still a thing.

Which is why this would literally change nothing.
The hacker isn't just one man on one computer, y'know they can just... log in to multiple accounts at once right? It would take like an extra 30 secs to drain the FC bank and meet up with the mule instead.

[bloop1564]

Which is why this would literally change nothing.
The hacker isn't just one man on one computer, y'know they can just... log in to multiple accounts at once right? It would take like an extra 30 secs to drain the FC bank and meet up with the mule instead.

But in a 1:1 transfer, you can only transfer up to 1M at a time. So if you had 100M, instead of doing a one-time transfer of 100M via FC chest, they'd have to do 100 1M transfers instead. As someone previously mentioned, yes of course they can have bots to do this instead, but still, it'll take longer than a singular 100M transfer. It's not much more time (depending on how much is being transferred), but at least there's a smoolll increase of a chance that you'll manage to freeze your account before you lose everything.

[MilkieTea]

But in a 1:1 transfer, you can only transfer up to 1M at a time. So if you had 100M, instead of doing a one-time transfer of 100M via FC chest, they'd have to do 100 1M transfers instead. As someone previously mentioned, yes of course they can have bots to do this instead, but still, it'll take longer than a singular 100M transfer. It's not much more time (depending on how much is being transferred), but at least there's a smoolll increase of a chance that you'll manage to freeze your account before you lose everything.

Considering I've done mass gil transfers before (upwards of 100m, facilitating between friends so twice that amount in theory) it only took 20 minutes. If someone's doing it 1:1 rather than 1:1:1, it'll take even less time. Draining the FC chest takes like 30 secs and considering bots don't have to account for human speed and minor errors, the whole process would probably take 10 minutes.

This wouldn't be a boon, and infact would probably screw over people who use alt-FCs for things like storage, etc.

[Ilisidi]

100000% agree. My friend has learned their lesson and implemented 2FA immediately after getting their account back. Maybe if anything, SE needs to implement mandatory 2FA for new/existing accounts. Of course social engineering will still make people get hacked, but at least it'll be harder... ish.

It doesn't make it harder at all for the most common phishing methods. People hand over there account name and password quite readily without TFA and with it, they just have over the TFA as well.

It would protect against hacking but it does not protect against the much more common phishing.

(I still never went without my TFA for longer than it took me from the one that after more than a decade of use had trouble responding to button presses to a new one.)