Who knew the 6.15 Omega Quests… (Spoilers)

[Renathras]

but to try transmute this into some form of "racial supremacy" is frankly just clownish and an attempt to turn this into something it wasn't and never has been hinted as for the sake of really forced, contorted comparisons to real world events,

Wow, talk about reaching!

No, it was not an attempt, much less a "frankly just clownish" one. Every story we have of Amauratians dealing with non-Amauratians has the former seeing themselves as better than the latter - no matter who the latter are. There is no case that they DIDN'T consider themselves better than whoever they were comparing themselves against.

And regarding your comment on apes - Emet can easily converse with our characters. Imagine if you could sit down with an ape and have a conversation about politics over a game of chess, and then told them that you still considered them a lesser being that wasn't alive and that killing them was no issue in your mind? While it is true that some primates can learn sign language and the like, Emet outright has plain language conversations with you about complex and abstract topics, only to tell you you still aren't even a living being in his eyes.

There's a BIT of a step up there. I know I, for one, wouldn't be dismissive of an ape able to speak perfect English and talk to me about general relativity as some "lesser" being that I could kill on a whim. Would you?

[EDIT: Though I wonder if you don't like this comparison NOT because it's faulty, but because it's a bit TOO on the nose and you don't like siding with the <race> supremacists... eh, who can say...]

coupled with bizarre accusations that Rulakir is a cutscene skipper.

Perhaps you missed where this person said they couldn't understand how I even thought what I did and it must be some headcanon of mine when I'm referencing specific events that happened in the MSQ. And you think my COUNTER accusation to that dismissive accusation, that they might not have watched the cutscenes where this was discussed outright in the game, are the bizarre ones?

As Iscah said, all we have are very vague details, so to develop the argument in this direction would require far more specificity than exists;

Which is ALSO TRUE of Venat's actions. Yet the "Venat is the villain of the story" faction seems to have no qualms in doing so. I am (now) merely addressing the other side to bring balance to the discussion. My initial post was just me laying out why I didn't see that as correct and explaining, in detail, my reasoning for it. And none of my reasoning was based on "headcanon", but rather based on actual canon.

right now, the claims in question just read as really bizarre headcanon, that the writers do not even allude to in discussing Venat's motivations...

And yet, everything I've mentioned is either from the game's MSQ itself, the conversation branches you can have with Emet, or the Tales from the Shadows, which is also official canon lore.

And you join the other poster in this bizarre insistence I'm engaging in headcanon when I'm referencing actual canon events.

Have YOU skipped cutscenes, my dude? Maybe you should be a little less quick to accuse people of headcanon when they're referencing the actual story.

Also, you seem overly fond of calling anything you disagree with bizarre. Note that the definition of bizarre is not "something Lauront disagrees with".

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EDIT2: For reference, the cutscene point was not meant as some kind of insult or slight. It was more me saying "I'm not sure how you DON'T see what I'm saying, since it was actually expressed in the story events and you'd have to have skipped those to not have seen it..." after the person accused me of using headcanon instead of actual canon.

...the very thing you then did as well...interesting...

But note my response would have been different had the person said "Huh, well, I see your perspective, but this is mine <explains perspective>". Instead it was a dismissive "<dismissive laugh> Oh you and your silly headcanon!"

That isn't how you have a respectful discussion.