Off Topic Discussion Megathread

[Renalt]

I enjoyed the first two Dragon Age games. The third had some redeeming qualities to me in the form of Orlais though I wish it'd been given more focus overall...

I enjoyed both DA 1 and 2. DA:I I could never get into no matter how many times I try. The first one you start in humble ( Or maybe no so humble but ends tragic ) beginnings and work your way up to being important. The 2nd one you also start with nothing but work your way up to being important. The 3rd one is just "Oh you're a terrorist...wait...you fixed the issue we blamed you for? Well hello there King/Queen!"

It was just a huge disconnect for me.

[Kolsykol]

On the topic of FFXIV I guess, but tomorrow Mikepreachwow and his FC will have their PvP tournament which will be pretty interesting.
I think on paper at least FFXIV PvP could be pretty fun to watch.
They're gonna expand it later but the first tournament is more of a test and for his FC only.

I enjoyed both DA 1 and 2. DA:I I could never get into no matter how many times I try. The first one you start in humble ( Or maybe no so humble but ends tragic ) beginnings and work your way up to being important. The 2nd one you also start with nothing but work your way up to being important. The 3rd one is just "Oh you're a terrorist...wait...you fixed the issue we blamed you for? Well hello there King/Queen!"

It was just a huge disconnect for me.

I just dunno wtf Bioware is even doing today lol.
I keep forgetting that Andromeda even exists, it seems terrible.

It's the same with Blizzard tho, I think it's worth remembering that the actual people who were the reason their games were good are all gone.
Diablo 1 and 2 for example was made by a different wing of Blizzard that all left almost 20 years ago and went on to make PoE.
The studio that went on to become Blizzard was the other part.
Sure they were responsible for Warcraft and WoW, but most of those people are also gone.

It's just people who had nothing to do with what made Blizzard so great that work there now.
It's only their IP's in name but in practice it's not really the same games anymore, it's basically other people playing around with IP's they had no hand in creating.
I think it's much the same with Bioware too.

Obviously that's also true to a large degree with FF and FFXIV, but I also think it's worth remembering and why people shouldn't have this inherent sense of loyalty towards IP's or studios.
It's the people who make things great not the studios name or IP.

[RyuDragnier]

I just dunno wtf Bioware is even doing today lol.
I keep forgetting that Andromeda even exists, it seems terrible.

It has the best combat in the ME series, tbh. But then again it was made by the team that did the ME3 multiplayer, so that's to be expected. Story is so-so, characters are varying in likeability, but the premise isn't too bad. It wasn't bad for that team's first attempt at making a fully fledged game, and they fixed a number of bugs and other things. The game as it is now is a lot better than at launch. It's just a shame they were forced to pack it up and made to work on Anthem...especially since nothing could save Anthem. If DA4 sucks, then that's it for Bioware tbh, it's going to be shuttered (and if inner management still works the way they did for Inquisition on, then they deserve to be).

[SturmChurro]

..

The latest season opener was pretty gross actually. Not talking about blood either. I think I was actually sick to my stomach. Sometimes the shock comedy is a bit too much.

[Vahlnir]

The latest season opener was pretty gross actually. Not talking about blood either. I think I was actually sick to my stomach. Sometimes the shock comedy is a bit too much.

Yeah...I was watching that with someone. We were both sitting there like



After that it was fine. Even this latest episode has nothing on...that. But I'll definitely never forget what I saw, much to my own dismay. There are some things that can't be unseen.

[SturmChurro]

Yeah...I was watching that with someone. We were both sitting there like



After that it was fine. Even this latest episode has nothing on...that. But I'll definitely never forget what I saw, much to my own dismay. There are some things that can't be unseen.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was like too. It was on screen for so long too. Like... (why is there no sick face emoji?).

[VirusOnline]

I enjoyed both DA 1 and 2. DA:I I could never get into no matter how many times I try. The first one you start in humble ( Or maybe no so humble but ends tragic ) beginnings and work your way up to being important. The 2nd one you also start with nothing but work your way up to being important. The 3rd one is just "Oh you're a terrorist...wait...you fixed the issue we blamed you for? Well hello there King/Queen!"

It was just a huge disconnect for me.

ya the plotline in the first 1/3 of the game moves so fast it makes ew look amazing

[SturmChurro]

ya the plotline in the first 1/3 of the game moves so fast it makes ew look amazing

Not necessarily. You don't actually 'lead' the Inquisition for a good portion of the early game. Also, keep in mind the 'Inquisition' is a religious organization, with devout followers. Seeing the main character as a religious symbol.

You aren't made 'inquisitor' until after heroically sacrificing themself to cover everyone's escape, and stand up to Corypheus. Surviving this encounter to then shepherd the survivors to Skyhold. Not to mention everything done prior to doing that, but those actions cemented the player character's rise to becoming the 'Inquisitor'. I do believe the inquisitor, more or less, earns the title.

[Misplaced_Marbles]

It has the best combat in the ME series, tbh. But then again it was made by the team that did the ME3 multiplayer, so that's to be expected. Story is so-so, characters are varying in likeability, but the premise isn't too bad. It wasn't bad for that team's first attempt at making a fully fledged game, and they fixed a number of bugs and other things. The game as it is now is a lot better than at launch.

The combat is great, sure, but the story is even worse than the usual cookie cutter chosen one stories, since Ryder is just a vehicle for the actual chosen one who will solve everyone problems single-handedly with hyper intelligence and a heaping helping of asspulls.

[RyuDragnier]

The combat is great, sure, but the story is even worse than the usual cookie cutter chosen one stories, since Ryder is just a vehicle for the actual chosen one who will solve everyone problems single-handedly with hyper intelligence and a heaping helping of asspulls.

So Commander Shepherd.