We lost 70% of our player base half a year in

[LittleImp]

"FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn is estimated to have 1,854,888 players per day this month." (Source: https://mmo-population.com/r/ffxiv)

The OP's graph from Steam, rounded up, is 26,000. That's about .014%, which is certainly way below 10%.

Stats indicate an average of 3,460,103 active players in Januay 2022 (right after 6.0 launch), and 3,682,079 active players in Jun 2022 (after 6.15 release with new Ultimate). It appears that the Yearly population chart has a dip down to about 600,000 active players in the mid-March to early-April time frame, before the 6.1 release.

Yeah, that means an 80% drop in the active player population for the last of a 4 month lull in new content, followed by 600% increase in active player population when the new patch came out.

And yes, the numbers are as dubious as any other when talking about populations for online games, although I trust them more than I do some count of the Steam gamer population statistics that say nothing about all of the console and PC users of FFXIV who do not play through Steam.

This website gets debunked every single time it gets posted. It unironically estimates game populations based on the number of reddit users / activity in the games subreddit.

At least Steam is providing a legitimate user count of some portion of the games population, and the trends tend to match up with trends seen in places like Lucky Bancho.

[Nezerius]

"FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn is estimated to have 1,854,888 players per day this month." (Source: https://mmo-population.com/r/ffxiv)

The OP's graph from Steam, rounded up, is 26,000. That's about .014%, which is certainly way below 10%.

Stats indicate an average of 3,460,103 active players in Januay 2022 (right after 6.0 launch), and 3,682,079 active players in Jun 2022 (after 6.15 release with new Ultimate). It appears that the Yearly population chart has a dip down to about 600,000 active players in the mid-March to early-April time frame, before the 6.1 release.

Yeah, that means an 80% drop in the active player population for the last of a 4 month lull in new content, followed by 600% increase in active player population when the new patch came out.

And yes, the numbers are as dubious as any other when talking about populations for online games, although I trust them more than I do some count of the Steam gamer population statistics that say nothing about all of the console and PC users of FFXIV who do not play through Steam.

Ah yes, mmo-population. The website that puts an MMO like Wildstar at #40, with a total player count of 1.35 million. Even lists a few player spikes in 2022!

Y'know, the same Wildstar that shut down its servers in 2018.

[Shougun]

Ah yes, mmo-population. The website that puts an MMO like Wildstar at #40, with a total player count of 1.35 million. Even lists a few player spikes in 2022!

Y'know, the same Wildstar that shut down its servers in 2018.

They play with their hearts!

[Naoki34]

We lost 70% of our player base half a year in

That's 70% of 15% of the FFXIV community, all good, and what about the non-Steam, Ps4 and Ps5 accounts?

And then it's still the norm, there's people for MSQ and content that lasts 2-3 weeks and people will come back for the next big patch.

There is only a minority who keep their subscriptions active and play at least once a day, like people who have a house and just like to play FFXIV daily for example.


It reminds me of the topics on WoW is dead every month for 10 years, everything is fine, I tell you!

It's almost as good as those who announce the end of the world for 2000, then 2012, then...

[anhaato]

That's 70% of 15% of the FFXIV community, all good, and what about the non-Steam, Ps4 and Ps5 accounts?

[Mapleine]

steam only accounts for maybe 15% of the community

I actually don't think it's even double digits. It's a really small part of the community, which makes sense as there's only negatives associated with buying the game through another arm of DRM.

Game isn't any less healthy than the same point in StB or ShB though, anyone saying otherwise was probably not here. There's significantly more people around and groups up than the doldrums of 4.1 and 5.1, when Yoshi P said the game is still growing he wasn't running PR, it is.

Deliberately lying about your products health and status would also be an easy way to get it in trouble, this is why Blizzard simply stopped reporting numbers instead of starting to lie.

Now I just wish the unacceptably thin early expansion content would grow with it.

[Striker44]

Now I just wish the unacceptably thin early expansion content would grow with it.

Speak for yourself, please! As a casual player with a full-time job who only has a few hours a week to play, I found the early expansion content more than acceptable. I finished the MSQ and my first role questline almost exactly when the new Alliance raid dropped. Likewise it's just my opinion, but I was very happy with it

[anhaato]

Speak for yourself, please! As a casual player with a full-time job who only has a few hours a week to play, I found the early expansion content more than acceptable. I finished the MSQ and my first role questline almost exactly when the new Alliance raid dropped. Likewise it's just my opinion, but I was very happy with it

I work 40 hour weeks and still think there’s next to nothing to do :shrug: and even so, I’d be fine with them loading us up with an overwhelming amount of content, even if I don’t have enough time to do all I want, as long as it’s not timegated.

[VelKallor]

also it takes way less than 10% to identify patterns in a body of study

Horsebiscuits.

"We interviewed 10% and that means that the other 90% think the same way"

No. Not even close.

[angelar_]

this thread badly needs statistics majors