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    Will they give back kaiten to the sam?

    Hello, i'm new to the game and i picked sam as my main class for the moment. And when i tried to learn more about the class i discovered that kaiten was removed. But that spell was apparently the identity of sam and had a cool animation. Plus the kenki bar was actually something that you needed to manage. So now i kinda want to play the old sam. Do you know if they will go back to the old sam?
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    I'd say it's difficult to tell. I mean, there has been plenty of negative feedback regarding it's removal and I very much doubt they're oblivious to the fact that it was, to say the least, an unpopular change.

    Its really a question of whether the feedback has been enough to convince the Devs to roll back the change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guigaxw View Post
    Hello, i'm new to the game and i picked sam as my main class for the moment. And when i tried to learn more about the class i discovered that kaiten was removed. But that spell was apparently the identity of sam and had a cool animation. Plus the kenki bar was actually something that you needed to manage. So now i kinda want to play the old sam. Do you know if they will go back to the old sam?
    We don't know. There's precedent for them returning skills that were taken away from a job. That exact thing happened with SAM and Hagakure as well as SCH and Energy Drain. So it's not impossible. But as Carin said, it will depend on a number of other factors. If they understand what's best for the game they will revert SAM to at least 6.08 and start over from the drawing board. Whatever direction they are going in now the SAM player base, and many other players, have little-to-no confidence in it.
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    I still wouldn't do it [double weave oGCD's on GNB] because there is a good chance to mess up the rotation and it can easily cause a wipe because of server ticks.

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    If they do, it'll be in the 6.2 patch, a couple months from now. So far they have been silent regarding this issue.
    Hopefully they do! The job felt much nicer to play before.

    I hope you keep enjoying SAM either way.
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    Ok i'll give a lot of feedbacks then. TY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quor View Post
    We don't know. There's precedent for them returning skills that were taken away from a job. That exact thing happened with SAM and Hagakure as well as SCH and Energy Drain. So it's not impossible. But as Carin said, it will depend on a number of other factors. If they understand what's best for the game they will revert SAM to at least 6.08 and start over from the drawing board. Whatever direction they are going in now the SAM player base, and many other players, have little-to-no confidence in it.
    Ok we'll see then. TY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hezhi View Post
    If they do, it'll be in the 6.2 patch, a couple months from now. So far they have been silent regarding this issue.
    Hopefully they do! The job felt much nicer to play before.

    I hope you keep enjoying SAM either way.
    OK i'll wait the 6.2 patch. TY
    And yes i enjoy it but i feel like it could be better with kaiten.
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    I'm going with no. They are going to leave SAM as is and pretend everything is OK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guigaxw View Post
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    Welcome to FFXIV and the FFXIV forums

    Regarding the Negative feedback of the 6.1 patch changes that included Kaiten removal? " Click Here, for the Compiled SAM threads " "

    The thread is a summary of all the Samurai threads voicing negative feedback towards the Kaiten removal and 6.1 changes.

    At the very bottom of the thread, there are several links to youtube content creators who shared their opinion on Kaiten removal. Most not liking them, but they also provide visually how Kaiten used to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guigaxw View Post
    Hello, i'm new to the game and i picked sam as my main class for the moment. And when i tried to learn more about the class i discovered that kaiten was removed. But that spell was apparently the identity of sam and had a cool animation. Plus the kenki bar was actually something that you needed to manage. So now i kinda want to play the old sam. Do you know if they will go back to the old sam?
    / popcorn / popcorn / popcorn
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