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  1. #211
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    This threads gunna get real good with the theres only one correct way to be gay rhetoric.
    Its not like the lgbtq can't be toxic either. People are people regardless of whatever orientation you are. I had a co-worker years ago who is gay and he absolutely hates the lgbtq community because to him they were extremely toxic as he'd get more hateful comments and threats from them than from anywhere else.
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  2. #212
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vav2021 View Post
    My favorite hot take from the thread so far is that people aren't allowed to be critical of their own community without being some sort of phobe or ist.
    I see it a lot with women too, where tbh very often men too tell women that they're being victimized and have internalized misogyny for what makes them happy.
    In gaming I see this shit a lot with how female characters are portrayed.
    If you're a woman and you like characters such as Bayonetta or skimpy outfits and cosplay you get told you have interalized misogny and then these same people sit around talking about modesty like the puritans and don't see the irony and how much they're projecting.
    There's just something very bizarre about pretending to be some saviour of women and then completely stripping women of all autonomy and acting like everything they do is just '' for men ''.
    I mean in the end of the day no woman is a spokesperson for women, but it's especially rich when you have men portraying themselves as these great '' allies '' but then very heavily and aggressively try and dictate what women should and do think and feel about things.
    in the games industry it's completely infested with this and it's very frustrating.

    This became a public thing so I won't go too much into details for privacy reasons, but I know someone who worked at a major studio and had her male boss come up to her and start talking shit about her private fluff she had decorated her office space with ( art, figurines etc ).
    Doing the whole usual '' wow I can't believe how misogynistic and gross this is, I don't find this attractive at all '' ( why did he think she should give a shit if he found it attractive lol? ).
    Dude did this a lot and virtue signaled really hard about how '' concerned '' he was about the portrayal of women etc.
    Same guy was a total creep and it even escalated into groping and she became scared to go to work every day, dude didn't get fired HR protected him regardless of multiple women coming out against him.
    Because he's supposedly '' one of the good guys '', and my friend and her other collegues were '' womaning '' wrong for liking such things.

    If you '' step out of line '' with the self-proclaimed Feminist spokes people for women you're basically treated like a traitor and a poor little victim who have no autonomy.
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  3. #213
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    Razzyness's Avatar
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    What is going on in this here and day
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  4. #214
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    MichiKyou's Avatar
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    Mevra Noor
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    I dont think we need a full event about it, We have already been getting NPC's in game who are LGBTQIA alligned.

    We dont get an event for a lot of real world events which are likely just as important.
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    Square, can we have an OCE fanfest now?

  5. #215
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    *snip*
    A lot of guys do it for clout points. The mindset of "Look at how much I care! Look at how much I'm concerned! Surely women will think highly of me now." There's a word for it, but for the life of me at the moment, I can't remember it. But it's very, very, very weird to me, and It's becoming more and more common these days, and I honestly can't comprehend the mindset. To me, things seem to have gone full circle.
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  6. #216
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vav2021 View Post
    A lot of guys do it for clout points. The mindset of "Look at how much I care! Look at how much I'm concerned! Surely women will think highly of me now." There's a word for it, but for the life of me at the moment, I can't remember it. But it's very, very, very weird to me, and It's becoming more and more common these days, and I honestly can't comprehend the mindset. To me, things seem to have gone full circle.
    I think the word you're looking for is narcissism.
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  7. #217
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vav2021 View Post
    A lot of guys do it for clout points. The mindset of "Look at how much I care! Look at how much I'm concerned! Surely women will think highly of me now." There's a word for it, but for the life of me at the moment, I can't remember it. But it's very, very, very weird to me, and It's becoming more and more common these days, and I honestly can't comprehend the mindset. To me, things seem to have gone full circle.
    The real question is, is it better to do something even for clout and virtue signaling than not do it at all? This has been something I have pondered on for a long time with various subjects.
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    Last edited by Nav_Fae; 06-12-2022 at 08:35 PM.

  8. #218
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    Vicentius Dragonwort
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    I don't think Erozea really needs a pride event- that isn't to say that I'm not intrigued by the game exploring the concepts of it through a side quest or flavor text as a trans guy myself. Especially so with races that have distinct differences between the sexes. Besides, even if trans people don't exist within the lore of Eorzea, that's what headcannons are for.

    EDIT: Wait??? Hold on a sec, fcs already make public pride events tho?? If it's for pride gear- then, okay can't blame the want for more potential glam pieces.
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    Last edited by Vampiric; 06-24-2022 at 01:10 PM.

  9. #219
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    Why do blatant bait threads get so many pages upon pages of replies on this forum?
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  10. #220
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    Why do blatant bait threads get so many pages upon pages of replies on this forum?
    The question of our time indeed.
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