vindication on a monumental scale

[dapperfaffer]

Because that's the only solution that will assure that for every character there is a house available to them. All of these other solutions are just band-aids.

instanced housing already exists in appartments. so unless insland sanctuaries come with a little single floor home that doesn't have a secondary instance to it, what the playerbase calls instanced housing is never going to happen.

[FuraMal]

When SE advertises "housing" with pictures of houses they set the expectations themselves. Defining if apartments are housing or not is fine, but it misses the point.

Apartments are incredibly small and don't offer the same benefits of S, M or L houses; you know, like the pictures in the advertisements.

Demand for houses seems pretty high if you look at the number of bids. Having a system that encourages players to make small FCs so they can participate in housing as advertised is eating up the lots they seem to intend for what is, in their minds, FCs full of players who can take advantage of housing as a group.

It just seems like bad decisions. For a relatively new player, not seeing any SE forum posts about housing (except a sticky one from many years ago?!?) is making me think ignoring popular issues will not do them any favors.

Encouraging players to give feedback here is also silly. SE does not interact with the forum community and the trolls are rampant (see OP) and just serve to rub salt into other's wounds.

[Jojoya]

When SE advertises "housing" with pictures of houses they set the expectations themselves. Defining if apartments are housing or not is fine, but it misses the point.

Apartments are incredibly small and don't offer the same benefits of S, M or L houses; you know, like the pictures in the advertisements.

Demand for houses seems pretty high if you look at the number of bids. Having a system that encourages players to make small FCs so they can participate in housing as advertised is eating up the lots they seem to intend for what is, in their minds, FCs full of players who can take advantage of housing as a group.

It just seems like bad decisions. For a relatively new player, not seeing any SE forum posts about housing (except a sticky one from many years ago?!?) is making me think ignoring popular issues will not do them any favors.

Encouraging players to give feedback here is also silly. SE does not interact with the forum community and the trolls are rampant (see OP) and just serve to rub salt into other's wounds.

It's not just the house pictured in the advertisement.

It's the lack of promotion of apartments at all whether in their public advertising or through the in-game content. Mentioning a room as an afterthought in an ad or burying mention of apartments several topics deep on a NPC that most players never talk to isn't promotion.

Apartments are not bad. They just are not as good as a house. They also have the added bonus of no demolition for those who are concerned about taking long breaks from the game.

What the game needs to be doing is promoting them. "Where the Heart is" quests shouldn't talk only about houses. They should talk about apartments being available to all, though some wealthy adventurers might get lucky enough to purchase a house.

Or better yet, add house plots to the instanced housing system. Imagine a ward where every plot placard was like the entrance to the apartment building but instead of leading into an apartment, it would lead into a house plot. The wards would see a lot more activity because instead of 30 owners sharing a huge area (but rarely being in that area at the same time), you could have 600 or more owners coming and going throughout the day. It would bring life to the ghost towns called wards.

[TaleraRistain]

instanced housing already exists in appartments. so unless insland sanctuaries come with a little single floor home that doesn't have a secondary instance to it, what the playerbase calls instanced housing is never going to happen.

Apartments are still limited in number. In true instanced housing, every character has their own individual place.

EQII gave all characters an inn room and part of the initial starting quests involved accessing that inn room and you even got some basic furniture. You could keep that room and also purchase other instanced housing. So you could have multiple places. There were buildings with doors with different addresses. Everyone for a given address accessed their particular instance from that door so everyone wasn't crowding around one location. You could control access. You could even sell on the market board from your housing. And there was even an outdoor possible in the form of courtyard type areas. There was no limitation on how many people could have their instance at a given address. This is the type of thing that's meant by true instanced housing.

They're already part of the way there with apartments. They just need to figure out the last few steps and whatever it would take behind the scenes to implement them.