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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Personally I'd like if the devs added a status ailment that hit healers that could "lock" oGCDs, forcing only GCD healing for a bit.
    it exists, its used in potd. its called amnesia


    its a huge bummer that thers so many status effects and the devs use them almost never. i very much would prefer if failing mechanics didnt do any damage at all but instead gave debuffs, and instead the unavoidable damage was vastly increased in frequency and potency.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by QooEr View Post
    it exists, its used in potd. its called amnesia


    its a huge bummer that thers so many status effects and the devs use them almost never. i very much would prefer if failing mechanics didnt do any damage at all but instead gave debuffs, and instead the unavoidable damage was vastly increased in frequency and potency.
    Gods yes, I'd love that so much. And Amnesia definitely needs to be used more in raids. I'm actually surprised they never used it in E12 considering the fight was pretty much "erasing memories." I know it was just a specific individual's, but having it effect the party would have been pretty cool, especially if it was during the add phase (and during a part of final phase).
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Gods yes, I'd love that so much. And Amnesia definitely needs to be used more in raids. I'm actually surprised they never used it in E12 considering the fight was pretty much "erasing memories." I know it was just a specific individual's, but having it effect the party would have been pretty cool, especially if it was during the add phase (and during a part of final phase).
    For that not to feel pretty badly, too, though, you'd have to have enough outgoing damage to actually deplete most of your oGCDs before the amnesia phase, such that you're getting some cooling value over said phase. That in itself would be quite a turn from the norm.

    Getting a debuff whereby just your next oGCD cast gets locked out, or is placed on an extended (flat, proportionate, or combination of both) recast time, could also be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Gods yes, I'd love that so much. And Amnesia definitely needs to be used more in raids. I'm actually surprised they never used it in E12 considering the fight was pretty much "erasing memories." I know it was just a specific individual's, but having it effect the party would have been pretty cool, especially if it was during the add phase (and during a part of final phase).
    Amnesia: exists
    WHM: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD LILY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Amnesia: exists
    WHM: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD LILY
    With stuff like P3S Macrocosmos being a thing, I don't mind WHM having a rare free-healing advantage relative to other healers (especially if one can shuffle their oGCD CDs partly around Amnesia phases).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    With stuff like P3S Macrocosmos being a thing, I don't mind WHM having a rare free-healing advantage relative to other healers (especially if one can shuffle their oGCD CDs partly around Amnesia phases).
    I wouldn't mind it either but I doubt that they'd implement something like that since SCH/SGE combinations would potentially suffer from such mechanics since their shields don't stack and cutting off access to something like Emergency Tactics or Pepsis during a GCD heal check would either be potentially problematic or the heal check is so easy what little advantage WHM has would be joke.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    I wouldn't mind it either but I doubt that they'd implement something like that since SCH/SGE combinations would potentially suffer from such mechanics since their shields don't stack and cutting off access to something like Emergency Tactics or Pepsis during a GCD heal check would either be potentially problematic or the heal check is so easy what little advantage WHM has would be joke.
    SGE doesn't have to activate their shields. They can cast their heals without Eukrasia active and they'll just be heals, not shield heals. SGE/SCH wouldn't have a problem, per say. Maybe have to throw out more of the heals, but not a problem with the shielding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    SGE doesn't have to activate their shields. They can cast their heals without Eukrasia active and they'll just be heals, not shield heals. SGE/SCH wouldn't have a problem, per say. Maybe have to throw out more of the heals, but not a problem with the shielding.
    the real question is since fights are supposed to be done with one regen one shield healer shouldn't we be more worried about WHM being chosen over AST?
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