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    Lodestone will have this info, it's how I found that my own server is flooded with dead/shell FC's.

    That being said, "Setting up a Free Company for the explicit intention of purchasing a personal house in a Free Company ward is a violation of the ToS" and "Owning more than one service account for the purposes of circumventing the one per service account restriction on housing is a violation of the ToS, and will result in the permanent suspension of all service accounts involved".
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    Last edited by ElysiumDragon; 06-20-2022 at 12:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon View Post
    Lodestone will have this info, it's how I found that my own server is flooded with dead/shell FC's.

    That being said, "Setting up a Free Company for the explicit intention of purchasing a personal house in a Free Company ward is a violation of the ToS" and "Owning more than one service account for the purposes of circumventing the one per service account restriction on housing is a violation of the ToS, and will result in the permanent suspension of all service accounts involved".
    Says who? You?

    Oh sweet summer child. You will be so disappointed from the reality once you leave the Final Fantasy Land one day and getting some fresh air
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon View Post
    Lodestone will have this info, it's how I found that my own server is flooded with dead/shell FC's.

    That being said, "Setting up a Free Company for the explicit intention of purchasing a personal house in a Free Company ward is a violation of the ToS" and "Owning more than one service account for the purposes of circumventing the one per service account restriction on housing is a violation of the ToS, and will result in the permanent suspension of all service accounts involved".
    This is so wrong it's not even funny. If you want a private fc, go make one. You'll probably get a house easier that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee102 View Post
    This is so wrong it's not even funny. If you want a private fc, go make one. You'll probably get a house easier that way.
    Contributing to the shell FC problem somehow solves it, sounds like a flawless solution that has zero downsides.

    I'm not going to be part of the problem, house be damned. Change the ToS to clean out the landlords and shells, really not that hard. The RMT'ers are (mostly) gone, now it's time the shells get cleared out too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon View Post
    Contributing to the shell FC problem somehow solves it, sounds like a flawless solution that has zero downsides.

    I'm not going to be part of the problem, house be damned. Change the ToS to clean out the landlords and shells, really not that hard. The RMT'ers are (mostly) gone, now it's time the shells get cleared out too.
    It wont change any of the problems. Even if your wishfull thinking would be come true some day it wont do anything to cover the demand.
    Not even on Spriggan.
    And before you gonna start about the Lucis One. Nah not even those 60 plots or how much there are in reality will cover the needs of 2-3k People who want to participate in Housing.
    Nothing. That should even get into your Lala head at least for your own sanity.

    You remind one of those kind of kids stomping at the ground when they didnt get the "Quengelwaren" at the cash register.
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    Last edited by Yodada; 06-20-2022 at 02:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon View Post
    Contributing to the shell FC problem somehow solves it, sounds like a flawless solution that has zero downsides.

    I'm not going to be part of the problem, house be damned. Change the ToS to clean out the landlords and shells, really not that hard. The RMT'ers are (mostly) gone, now it's time the shells get cleared out too.
    What, exactly, constitutes a shell FC?
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    Don't you have something better to do with your life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon View Post
    Contributing to the shell FC problem somehow solves it, sounds like a flawless solution that has zero downsides.

    I'm not going to be part of the problem, house be damned. Change the ToS to clean out the landlords and shells, really not that hard. The RMT'ers are (mostly) gone, now it's time the shells get cleared out too.
    Does it really matter whether the player is getting their house as a personal plot or as a FC plot via shell FC? It's still a single plot taken by a single player as long as they buy no others.

    Also in a strange way, players turning to shell FCs may help lead to a solution. If SE sees a significant number of players using them to get access to houses for personal use (diverting the intended purpose of FCs), it may encourage them to address the supply problem. Otherwise trying to reserve houses for FC use will become pointless as players use shell FCs to get houses for personal use regardless.

    Again, we need to stop blaming and trying to punish other players for trying to engage with the content. This is on SE for for creating an inadequate system when they could have learned from other MMOs that already had player housing at the time ARR was being developed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Again, we need to stop blaming and trying to punish other players for trying to engage with the content. This is on SE for for creating an inadequate system when they could have learned from other MMOs that already had player housing at the time ARR was being developed.
    I cannot state enough how this is the mentality we need to have towards housing. All the fault for everything going wrong with housing is on SE and we need to stop coming up with ways to punish players for doing things within the rules SE put in place. Focus all the ire on those responsible for the current decisions towards housing and their refusal to innovate and stubbornly continue on a path that has been failing for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon View Post
    Lodestone will have this info, it's how I found that my own server is flooded with dead/shell FC's.

    That being said, "Setting up a Free Company for the explicit intention of purchasing a personal house in a Free Company ward is a violation of the ToS" and "Owning more than one service account for the purposes of circumventing the one per service account restriction on housing is a violation of the ToS, and will result in the permanent suspension of all service accounts involved".
    Yeah, I'd definitely say these shell fcs fall under the first point you mention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ballprince View Post
    Yeah, I'd definitely say these shell fcs fall under the first point you mention.
    Where in the ToS does it even say something like that, though? I see nothing regarding shell FCs, so I'm curious why the other person would spread misinformation like that.
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