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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    lemme try this another way, not locking your house does not turn your house into public property.
    Not public property per se but for game purposes it does grant public access to anyone that wishes to enter.

    I think a lot of FCs could stand to review their rank settings if they're worried about unwanted visitors to their FC house but want their members to be able to invite friends in. Just assign trusted members Guest Access/Estate Tag Settings in the rank hierarchy settings. That way the door can be kept locked most of the time but if someone's friend is visiting, a member can briefly unlock the door to let them in.

    If that one FC would stop reacting to their unwanted visitor and giving them the attention they crave, they'd probably get bored with their little game and find something else to do. People who do things like that are attention seekers who only know how to play stupid games to get it.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 06-19-2022 at 08:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Not public property per se but for game purposes it does grant public access to anyone that wishes to enter.

    I think a lot of FCs could stand to review their rank settings if they're worried about unwanted visitors to their FC house but want their members to be able to invite friends in. Just assign trusted members Guest Access/Estate Tag Settings in the rank hierarchy settings. That way the door can be kept locked most of the time but if someone's friend is visiting, a member can briefly unlock the door to let them in.

    If that one FC would stop reacting to their unwanted visitor and giving them the attention they crave, they'd probably get bored with their little game and find something else to do. People who do things like that are attention seekers who only know how to play stupid games to get it.
    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Technically, in a game, not locking your house turns it into "anyone can get in, no one gets kept out, being in your house is not a violation of the Terms of Service". The privacy setting is binary - either you lock everyone who doesn't belong out, or you let everyone in.
    it's kind of amazing how people are defending stalking and harassing because they didn't lock the door.
    That is as dumb as people saying. "You can't scan the item, it must be free"
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    ??
    Dude, it's a VIDEO GAME. Relax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    Dude, it's a VIDEO GAME. Relax.
    no dont you understand? Trespassing peoples houses in ff14 is as bad as committing a crime in real life. you need to call 911 asap. /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    it's kind of amazing how people are defending stalking and harassing because they didn't lock the door.
    That is as dumb as people saying. "You can't scan the item, it must be free"
    Your opinion don't matter.
    If you want to get rid of this individual from your house, do what GM says.
    Lock the door, give him proper warning, blacklist him, then report to GM.
    Once these are done, you empower GM to take required action.

    This is much better than reality.
    If you think Stalking is easy to prosecute, you are naïve and need to do some more reading on articles relate to Stalking.
    If OP decides want to continue RP/ERP venues, then this is something he need to learn to deal with by just blacklisting him.
    There is no trespassing in FF14, you can choose you don't want to get disturb by lock the door; otherwise, stop whining on the forum
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    Last edited by Divinemights; 06-19-2022 at 12:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    This is much better than reality.
    If you think Stalking is easy to prosecute, you are naïve and need to do some more reading on articles relate to Stalking.
    Actually, it's not that difficult. Part of the reason why I am so troubled by SE's lack of action in protecting their players when their players are being stalked in their games is because I was a stalking victim (my stalker is presumed dead) irl. At the time of my case, there were no stalking laws. All I was getting was consistent, repeating phone calls all day at my residence. It was as simple as reporting it to the police, having a trap set up on my phone, and logging the offending calls. Once they identified the identity of the stalker, they put out a warrant for his arrest & to search his home. They ended up having to call in homicide because they found a shrine in his home to me. I was placed under police protection until he was arrested because homicide's interpretation of the shrine was I was going to die. I didn't even have to show up in court given the circumstances. The judge called me at home to tell me his decisions including details like the charges, jail time, hours of community service (to make up for the fact that there was no stalking law yet), mandatory psychiatric counseling twice a week for the offender, as well as the details of the restraining order that was in place. The state also provided the means in which to assure that it would be extremely hard to find me again as well as special permissions for information on my driver's license as well as the ability to find out their standing up until the day he was presumed dead. That's what happened with my case and look at the level of information that I was provided.

    Many municipalities have cyber divisions that would also include online stalking & harassment. Sometimes these things do actually spill over into IRL. Stalking can be a bit like an iceberg--sure you're getting persistent annoying phone calls but who knows, that persistent weirdo might have a murder shrine at their house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunnykin_M View Post
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    I think what that person means to say is that stalking in-game is difficult to prosecute. Players in the game are usually allowed to be wherever they want, and if that happens to be right near you then that's allowed too, which is why it would be difficult for SE to penalize them for stalking. If you feel that anyone is following you in game, you can go somewhere where they can't follow you or you can just log off. Also, they can't interact with you physically because it's not real life. That's why he says that "this is much better than reality."

    But in your case, if the stalker knows you IRL and is stalking you IRL too then by all means contact the authorities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    it's kind of amazing how people are defending stalking and harassing because they didn't lock the door.
    That is as dumb as people saying. "You can't scan the item, it must be free"
    Who is defending stalking? The solution from the GMs was exactly this "lock your doors". The OP chose to ignore it. The GMs can't do anything to a player for entering an open house, regardless of whether they annoy you personally or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Who is defending stalking? The solution from the GMs was exactly this "lock your doors". The OP chose to ignore it. The GMs can't do anything to a player for entering an open house, regardless of whether they annoy you personally or not.
    Indeed. They should lock the house down until the situation resolves itself once the offending trouble maker gets bored as they cant access the property any longer . Refusing to do so because of an inconvenience for friends to visit is nonsensical whilst they have this issue going on.


    Would friends even enjoy visiting when the troublemaker is doing what they are doing? It would annoy the hell out of me if some rando was spamming my screen with their nonsense because I am now in their vicinity in a friends FC lodgings and the nuisance player they seem reluctant to deal with.
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