Quote Originally Posted by CrownySuccubus View Post
The reasons he couldn't cast it properly in the Tower was because he was trying to summon entire whole people with bodies, memories, abilities, etc., intact. It's stated in 5.3 that the spell is significantly easier to cast if you don't care about summoning entities with their entire spirits and powers. In that moment, all he needed were seven temporary allies to assist the WOL.



Elidibus makes it clear that the WOL is his target, and no one else. The only time he ever attacks Gr'aha is in order to gain the power to summon other WOLs, and both Gr'aha and Beq Lugg use their power to escape.

I'm not seeing the problem, nor the "plot armor".



........And the lesson of FFX is that they were wrong.

The entire point of FFX's story is that sacrificing your life without even looking for an alternative is stupid. Everyone praised the Summoners and their deaths because they falsely believed that if they did it enough times, Sin would be gone for good. Auron's entire plot is that he died trying to get revenge when he realized how senseless his friends' deaths were, and he spent the whole game nudging Yuna's party into seeing the truth. When Yunalesca makes it perfectly clear that sacrifices will NEVER make Sin go away, the party renounces the entire system of sacrifice and resolves to find another way. And to put emphasis on this point, Yuna is likewise upset that Tidus sacrificed himself without warning her, and multiple times when someone offers to sacrifice their lives as a solution, Yuna shoots them down immediately and tries to find another way.

You picked probably the WORST miniseries in the franchise to cherry-pick here.



Yeah, and it's hinted throughout the story (as well as the entire point of every DLC after) that the entire sacrifice was a rigged game set up by the start by the corrupt gods of the FFXV world. Noctis sacrificed himself to save the world, specifically because human lives were being used as playthings. His sacrifice is more tragic than it is heroic, and the DLC make the argument that it probably shouldn't have happened that way.



Considering your examples thus far disprove your point, I think you should.
Again, we are bashed over the head constantly about how he gets weaker the farther he is. Yet there’s 0 signs at that point of him being weakened despite almost passing out by being in just Kholusia. It makes 0 sense that he’s able to summon 7 people across worlds whilst being away from the tower for DAYS. It goes against what we’re told. As for Elidibus that excuse is beyond idiotic. And again, i bring up the devs themselves confirming two endings were planned. Let’s not be needlessly obtuse here.