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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Please indicate which Live Letter you're thinking about where the word 'impossible' came out of the dev team's response to a question about this.

    The standard response is not "we can't do that because it's impossible". It is "we can look into it but make no promises about future features". "A mod can do it" is a poor example in any case, because the programmer has no liability whatsoever if/when the mod breaks the game in unspectacular ways.
    Zepla actually brought it up in a recent video about mods. They had an UI programmer on taking questions with Yoshi and they said no to this. Whether or not the word impossible was used, I forget. People here love to extract words where they don't exist.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYh4YCaIPEU
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    "A mod can do it" is a poor example in any case, because the programmer has no liability whatsoever if/when the mod breaks the game in unspectacular ways.
    On one hand, correct.

    On the other hand, it does show the feature can be implemented, even in a poor and shoddy manner. With proper attention and testing from people dedicated to the game, that function can be more or less implemented.

    The only time I think it's absolutely... well, not "impossible" but downright improbable within a given time frame, is when the feature messes with baseline code.
    Such as what people said the Glamour Dresser in Housing thing was: If you tried to edit your house's layout while someone was using the glamour dresser, the game would freak out and crash. Because instances. And again, it's not that that error would make it inherently impossible. Just that you'd have to redo some of the game's code, which goes beyond just simply adding the function in. And keep in mind, they did clean up their code back in Stormblood, so I think either we're due another major cleanup if stuff like this happens. Because given how many people want a Glamour Dresser in housing, they may want to look into implementing it in the future. And that will require all the necessarily cleanups.

    Though I don't think this "a mod can do it criticism" works for everything. We know of processes and mods that are generally harmless and easy to do, and don't inherently break anything code-related. Not even quality standards, given how clipping is literally rampant on cutscenes and final bosses *cough cough* Hrothgar hairstyle mods.

    On that note... I doubt people would want to expose themselves by answering this, but have there been any third party tools that massively broke the game? At least in terms of "they never patched what was causing the problem", because I guess even third party tools are allowed to be "Beta" like Character Portraits are.
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    Last edited by Midareyukki; 06-16-2022 at 03:19 AM.

  3. #63
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    I have this issue whenever I want to make a new outfit. I have to start taking stuff out of my dresser. I kind of wish more of the cash shop pieces could at least be put in the armoire or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    I shouldn't have to have 2 retainers dedicated to glamour's and manually swap them in and out of the glam dresser every time i want to make a new outfit.

    There are more than 3000 glamour items in the game, having 400-800 slots will never be enough.

    Either make an item unlock in the dresser once you have obtained it, or stop making content and focus on rewriting the spaghetti code this game is built on and FIX the problems.

    Years of excuses, just dedicate a team to rebuilding the glam system from scratch. World of Warcrafts 'Transmog' System is a million times more user friendly than this.
    But if they solve the problem, they won't be able to get you to rent more retainers and give them more money.

    That's what it always comes down too. Tons of games pull this crap and it's all designed to sell you inventory space.
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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Companies can sell space, but people don't have to buy it. There's a thing called restraint. also alts. For maybe 3 months out of my 3 years here, I had one additional retainer when working up all my crafting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Companies can sell space, but people don't have to buy it. There's a thing called restraint. also alts.
    What would alts have to do with space constraints when you can't move items between alts, anyways, without a middleman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    On the other hand, it does show the feature can be implemented, even in a poor and shoddy manner. With proper attention and testing from people dedicated to the game, that function can be more or less implemented.
    On the PC.

    In spite of the actual game coding.

    "Breaking the game" doesn't need to include causing raiding to fail, by the way. I've been shown examples of glamour mods that, somehow, randomly remove the hands and feet of an NPC or player.

    Think of it this way ... a mod can be compared to taking a photograph of a place you enjoy going, running it through Photoshop to insert a fast food chain logo on every leaf and rock, and then showing it to someone and saying "see how easy this is to do? why can't reality be changed to match it?"
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    If FFXIV money as being put back into FFXIV, this prob is not be a issue anymore.
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    The one lesson I learned about storage: No matter how much you get, you'll always find some way to stuff it full of junk and then need more space again.
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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    What would alts have to do with space constraints when you can't move items between alts, anyways, without a middleman?
    Company Chest

    Also, if you really need to have so many looks, just have another toon to play with. it takes some work, but it's another 400 free glamour slots and 20 plates.
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