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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadious View Post
    Within 1 GCD, an Astrologian requires both the ability to quickly identify the correct target for your drawn card and the physical dexterity to select them with a click, before quickly switching your target back to the boss.
    Just want to add that you also can select party members with the keyboard. With F1 through F8 I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACE135 View Post
    Just want to add that you also can select party members with the keyboard. With F1 through F8 I think.
    That's a fair point! But I thought about mentioning that in the OP but I've honestly never met anyone who does that.

    I imagine it's probably more accurate than clicking, but at the end of the day it's the same number of inputs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadious View Post
    That's a fair point! But I thought about mentioning that in the OP but I've honestly never met anyone who does that.

    I imagine it's probably more accurate than clicking, but at the end of the day it's the same number of inputs.
    Personally, if I have a KB with my F1-4 keys near enough, I'll use Caps key (rebound to Ctrl) in place of F5-8.

    Or, at present, I just use an MMO mouse with F1-3 for dungeoning. ~ for myself, F1 for first party member other than myself, etc. In raids, I'll just mouse over the DPS, but at least those give me quick binds to co-healer and either tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadious View Post
    That's a fair point! But I thought about mentioning that in the OP but I've honestly never met anyone who does that.
    I've been F-Key healing for about 18 years. So, there is one person you've now met.

    Fkeys, focus, and assist are pretty essential skills in my eyes.
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    Last edited by Shibi; 06-16-2022 at 10:41 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    I've been F-Key healing for about 18 years. So, there is one person you've now met.

    Fkeys, focus, and assist are pretty essential skills in my eyes.
    Two! I've been using function keys for party targeting since my EQ days. And it was so weird not having an actual "Assist" key here. I had to make a macro, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    It's a bad idea to use F5-F8 at all during combat if you only have one hand on the keyboard because they are so far away from that one hand's resting position. It's still a little bit of a reach to use F1-F4 but at least for most people that's doable while still keeping two or three fingers on their resting keys. The difficulty of accurately pressing a button increases significantly the farther you need to move your hand to press it (See: Fitts's Law), and this difficulty increases even more when you only have a fraction of a second to press it.
    It may take some getting used to but it's something you can learn with muscle memory just like any other controls. I don't ever have to look at function keys to find the right one for the party member because it's automatic for me now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    It may take some getting used to but it's something you can learn with muscle memory just like any other controls. I don't ever have to look at function keys to find the right one for the party member because it's automatic for me now.
    That you can do it does not negate my statement that it is objectively more difficult than remapping those keys to something closer to your hand's resting position. If a player plays with one hand on the keyboard they should map their keys so that everything is within the sweeping range of their fingers so that they can press them accurately without first spending so much time training themself to press them accurately. For most people this will be the keys to the left of the F4-5TGB diagonal and including it. People with extra long fingers or people who have prior training in piano might comfortably reach the 6YHN diagonal without training.

    You can train yourself to press any key on the keyboard accurately if you really want to, but if you map your keys so that they're closer to your resting position, you'll need little or no additional training to press them.


    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    it was so weird not having an actual "Assist" key here. I had to make a macro, lol.
    The game calls it "Target the Target of Your Current Target (Assist Target)". I have it bound to T.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACE135 View Post
    Just want to add that you also can select party members with the keyboard. With F1 through F8 I think.
    It's a bad idea to use F5-F8 at all during combat if you only have one hand on the keyboard because they are so far away from that one hand's resting position. It's still a little bit of a reach to use F1-F4 but at least for most people that's doable while still keeping two or three fingers on their resting keys. The difficulty of accurately pressing a button increases significantly the farther you need to move your hand to press it (See: Fitts's Law), and this difficulty increases even more when you only have a fraction of a second to press it.
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