New Missaphenchair video makes great point about the direction of job design

[Renathras]

Given the sacrificed range, for anyone who knew how to target, the circle requires more movement and more restricts one's hits when it most matters.

I don't disagree. Someone noted (we did the math to verify) that the circle has a larger total area, but my conclusion was you still have to be in the middle of the pack. While you might have to dance around a BIT with a cone (because if you pull MANY enemies they tend to fan out and encircle your hitbox), but all you have to do is scoosh a little and you're still hitting most or all of them. But with the circle, you have to be pretty centered and can't snag those enemies a bit out of range.

I think my only complaint was I kind of wished they'd have 2 cones instead of 1 cone + 1 circle (or 2 circles). 2 cones would have been nice since you would have the same range/angle with both attacks. But 1 cone + 1 circle was still better than 2 circles, imo

Imagine if MCH bioblaster dropped in Potency to be about equal to spreadshot or scattergun and lost all its range and forced you to cast it in while standing on the tank in w2w trash pulls.

That's basically what happened to SAM 2 sen spender Tenka Goken.

That sounds...pretty terrible, actually. :O

[Sorzai]

I don't disagree. Someone noted (we did the math to verify) that the circle has a larger total area, but my conclusion was you still have to be in the middle of the pack. While you might have to dance around a BIT with a cone (because if you pull MANY enemies they tend to fan out and encircle your hitbox), but all you have to do is scoosh a little and you're still hitting most or all of them. But with the circle, you have to be pretty centered and can't snag those enemies a bit out of range.

but the thing about circle aoe is that tanks tend to not bother with positioning the mob since all they need is be in the middle of the pack. it is extremely frustrating when you can't hit all the mob with a cone aoe. As you said, i wish they give 2 cones instead.

[Shurrikhan]

but the thing about circle aoe is that tanks tend to not bother with positioning the mob since all they need is be in the middle of the pack.

This is laughably bad practice that I'm sure not a single caster (using enemy-centered circular AoEs) will ever appreciate.