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    Quote Originally Posted by Jemachu View Post
    He deemed us unworthy and lesser beings because we failed his test at the end of Shadowbringers—a test that prior to the sundering he vehemently disagreed with, unlike Hermes and Venat—the dialogue I referenced took place before this, when he still had hope that we could meet his expectations for mankind and find another way as allies without bloodshed.

    The fact you ignored the rest of my post speaking about the third set of sacrifices, the same ones that everybody who defends Venat's genocide harps on about baselessly as 'confirmed totally being human sacrifices', and instead simply honed in on your classic tedious comeback that "Emet is a racist tho!!!11!!" says it all.
    His test was unreasonable, and about seven apocalypses late for my liking. I never got the feeling that test was genuine; rather, he was setting outrageous conditions of success so he could claim himself right when we fell short of them. If he actually wanted to stop the Calamity he had plenty of chances to.

    And you've completely failed to understand that the third sacrifice, for the story to make any sense at all, has to be substantial to a level of moral ambiguity; it has to be something that would be objectionable. If the third sacrifice isn't a huge and dubious alternative of some kind, then the Convocation look stupid for not doing it earlier, and Venat's crew look stupid for objecting to the ethical alternative. Since I assume you don't think the Convocation are stupid, then the third sacrifice must be something substantial.

    My view on that is 'if that requires sentient beings to be the ones being sacrificed, then that's what it is for you to consider the problem'. We don't know the contents, but we do know the stakes and responses; substitute whatever works for you in that context as the contents.
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    Last edited by Cleretic; 06-12-2022 at 08:29 PM.

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