Just remove healers.

[ASkellington]

And let's examine what you actually mean by this first. What do you want healers to look like exactly?
In other words, what would make them fun, meaningful, and actually wanted/needed? I need to know what this 'fun' is. When was it fun, What made it fun, Why it is fun, and How can we constructively make a better system.

I want resource management. For mana to actually mean something other than a Raise tax (it most certainly does not for AST).

Forget this seals system and give back diversity for cards. SE shown they can do it in PvP they have no excuse for PvE now.

I want healing diversity in this game. AST/WHM play the same and so do SGE/SCH because of this stupid philosophy of Pure/Shield healer SE is fixated on. REMOVE THAT FROM THE GAME.

Make AST a delayed HoT healer from lv1-90 to make it more distinct from WHM in its heal style or bring back the Noct Sect that was removed and make it stance dance between shields and HoTs in combat like it should have. Make SGE a healer who heals by doing damage or give it more abilities that heal and do damage at the same time (similar to Assize/Macrocosmos/Earthly Star).

I want to juggle between healing and doing dps. I do not. Most content in the game does not make me make choices in which skill of mine is more effective to use over another because the cool downs of the abilities are too low, there is no mana attached to most of them, there are no buffs I need to constantly keep active. Give me more dps options if you aren't going to give me more support options and cut my redundant healing abilities to give the fallacy that multitasking exists.

Nadda we HAVE post SE can go to, to see what healers are asking for. THAT ISN'T THIS POST. This post is here to highlight SE doesn't listen.

[Silverbane]

This post is here to highlight SE doesn't listen.

They don't listen to you, you mean.
You should think long and hard on where the fault for that lies.
Chances are it doesn't lie with the developers of one of the world's most successful games.

[ASkellington]

They don't listen to you, you mean.
You should think long and hard on where the fault for that lies.
Chances are it doesn't lie with the developers of one of the world's most successful games.

And plenty of people myself included here and in Japan have expressed dislike to hate of the current state of healers.

I firmly believe the fault lies with them. Especially as it seems people WERE HAPPY BEFORE SHB's CHANGES for the most part. Just because Shb's story was fantastic doesn't mean SE's gameplay and balancing is. Just look at how long it took them to fix Living Dead.

[Silverbane]

plenty of people myself included here and in Japan have expressed dislike to hate of the current state of healers.

By "plenty of people" ASkellington is referring to are a miniscule and statistically meaningless fraction of the subscriber base, comparable to the fraction that are complaining about hairstyles.

I firmly believe the fault lies with them.

Of course you do. Don't you always?

[BRVV]

By "plenty of people" ASkellington is referring to are a miniscule and statistically meaningless fraction of the subscriber base, comparable to the fraction that are complaining about hairstyles.

Majority of healers pre-shadowbringers probably left by now or a not main healers anymore. How long is one supposed to be ignored and still go on?

[Silverbane]

How do YOU know what the majority of the playerbase cares about?

After admitting he was spouting BS, BRVV tries to make it look like I am too, using the strawman argument so popular with forum whiners. It's a strawman because I have never claimed to speak for the majority of the playerbase.

Once again, we see the whiner strategy of "if you can't refute the message, slander the messenger."

[BRVV]

After admitting he was spouting BS, BRVV tries to make it look like I am too, using the strawman argument so popular with forum whiners. It's a strawman because I have never claimed to speak for the majority of the playerbase.

Once again, we see the whiner strategy of "if you can't refute the message, slander the messenger."

You were venting, i was too. How come i should suddenly provide proof but you do not?

[Silverbane]

You were venting, i was too.

No, I wasn't. You're the only one who was "venting."

But you really have no reluctance to post -- as fact -- things you do not (and in fact cannot) know are true, do you? Can you even tell the difference between what you can know is true, what you do know is true, and what you merely wish was true?

These latest posts of your lead me to believe you have some trouble with that [Edit: and his response to this post reinforces that belief].
Haven't you noticed that things you wish were true are often false?

[BRVV]

No, I wasn't. You're the only one who was "venting."

But you really have no reluctance to post -- as fact -- things you do not (and in fact cannot) know are true, do you? Can you even tell the difference between what you can know is true, what you do know is true, and what you merely wish was true?

These latest posts of your lead me to believe you have some trouble with that.
Haven't you noticed that things you wish were true are often false?

"By "plenty of people" ASkellington is referring to are a miniscule and statistically meaningless fraction of the subscriber base, comparable to the fraction that are complaining about hairstyles." - no proof

"Gotta love how some of the whiners here just can't believe there's more than one person posting to the forums who enjoys playing healers and doesn't agree with them." - Assumption, also one of your "nice" posts

"Nice try at Orwellian Newspeak, comrade, but no.
The money you pay for a lottery ticket is not punishment. It's the cost of entering the lottery." HOUSING LOTTERY works different then normal lotteries. On a normal lottery ticket YOU WOULD NEVER GET MONEY BACK.

You are either a troll or incapable of critical thought. Anyway, no need to have any conversation with you about any topic. Grow up.

[IDontPetLalas]

for those of you replying to ..well. i won't even mention their name- don't. don't quote them, don't encourage them. look up their past posts, half of them are filled with inflammatory words like 'whiners, bs, complainers'. unless, of course you enjoy going around and around trading insults for pages and pages.