"Free Company Houses" should not exist, they only encourage "personal/solo FC's"

[Jojoya]

No, our 11 member FC was born out of FCs being generally terrible and never living up the promises they make. Remove personal housing, it's redundant. You don't NEED a personal house, it's a luxury.

No one NEEDS anything in this game. Let's just remove everything because it's all pointless luxury.

That will leave the game in good shape, right? Nothing for players left to fight over.

[Seraphor]

No one NEEDS anything in this game. Let's just remove everything because it's all pointless luxury.

That will leave the game in good shape, right? Nothing for players left to fight over.

Honestly, I think they should have just limited Mediums and Larges to FC's only, and allowed you to upgrade Apartments to the same interior as small houses for a lower price of about 1.5mil, while making you choose between a small house plot or an apartment.
This would have meant more plots for FC's only, and made apartments comparable to houses so they're a fairer alternative.

Coulda would shoulda of course, but this way no one would be expecting a medium or large personal house, if it was always done this way.

[Themarvin]

They should rather let entirely go of personal housing whenever it get to it and put som better restrictions onto FC houses.

Would solve the entire problem for good.

[Renalt]

I made my Solo FC for 3 reasons.

1. I wanted my FC name of Riskbreaker

2. FC chest of my very own - My inventory is so spacious right now

3. I was tired of the constant blind invites.

[Eraden]

No one NEEDS anything in this game. Let's just remove everything because it's all pointless luxury.

That will leave the game in good shape, right? Nothing for players left to fight over.

I agree with your take on this Jojoya. The problem that I see with regards to people just casually tossing the issue of housing aside as it is nothing more than a "luxury", is that they don't really understand human behavior very well with respect to this sort of thing. Humans have an almost instinctive need to have something they can call home. Nobody should be surprised then, especially not SE (they should have at least a semi competent marketing department), that people would seek such a feature out even within a virtual environment. When housing was made available for personal use, a Pandora's box was opened that can never be closed again without tanking this game.

[NekoMataMata]

I love how everyone is simply going at each other's throats and attempting to remove content that they deem useless, redundant and unnecessary despite it clearly being valuable to other people.

Why can't we just even out the the personal house to fc house ratio? It definitely shouldn't be what it is currently. 50:50 or more likely a little more towards 55-70ish for personal houses since FCs should be more condensed. There's no reason to outright remove either though.

[Kirajah]

The solution isnt to remove FC housing or personal housing.
There is clearly a demand for personal housing. One of the plots I bid on last cycle had 411+ bids on it. Meanwhile half of the ward my FC is in is completely empty with no bids on any of those houses. We don't know when, or if they will fill. And it is Empyreum, too! Its not just our ward, practically every small in wards 1-18 in Empyreum are empty. - Even some of the Mediums are! Thats over 100 houses that are empty and in the new and shiny neighbourhood. There are people that would love those homes for their personals, even the smalls. But instead they have to fight over the scraps that are wards 19-24. Its worse when you lose a personal house in one of the OG neighbourhoods in wards 1-18 and you can't buy it for your personal. Its FC only now. And being FC only does encourage personal FCs. I'm honestly tempted to leave my decently large FC to get one of these mediums for just myself. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I would much rather buy it as a personal.

They made the housing situation even worse and I didn't even know that was possible. Its time to open up all the wards to be available to personal buyers. FCs had their first dibs.

More wards are necessary, and there is a clear and obvious demand for personals, but that doesn't mean FCs should lose housing privileges. More wards is only a Band-Aid fix. Apartments aren't big enough to fix the problem. Island Sanctuary apparently isn't going to either based on what little we know about it. We need something like the Serenitea Pot from Genshin Impact!

[Shougun]

The solution isnt to remove FC housing or personal housing.
There is clearly a demand for personal housing. One of the plots I bid on last cycle had 411+ bids on it. Meanwhile half of the ward my FC is in is completely empty with no bids on any of those houses. We don't know when, or if they will fill. And it is Empyreum, too! Its not just our ward, practically every small in wards 1-18 in Empyreum are empty. - Even some of the Mediums are! Thats over 100 houses that are empty and in the new and shiny neighbourhood. There are people that would love those homes for their personals, even the smalls. But instead they have to fight over the scraps that are wards 19-24. Its worse when you lose a personal house in one of the OG neighbourhoods in wards 1-18 and you can't buy it for your personal. Its FC only now. And being FC only does encourage personal FCs. I'm honestly tempted to leave my decently large FC to get one of these mediums for just myself. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I would much rather buy it as a personal.

They made the housing situation even worse and I didn't even know that was possible. Its time to open up all the wards to be available to personal buyers. FCs had their first dibs.

More wards are necessary, and there is a clear and obvious demand for personals, but that doesn't mean FCs should lose housing privileges. More wards is only a Band-Aid fix. Apartments aren't big enough to fix the problem. Island Sanctuary apparently isn't going to either based on what little we know about it. We need something like the Serenitea Pot from Genshin Impact!

Don't think they made it worse, given what the system does well is best supported by FCs (and was the original plan of the system), main issue being is since there isn't a crazy number of FCs the FCs are filtering through the most desirable plots first. Though perhaps a plot that has no bids for two cycles in a row could become open to all (or three?).

Of course the whole shell FC thing is embarrassing and unfortunate.

And yes, the solution is instanced housing . It /always/ has been lol.

My hope is that Island Sanctuary is going to start out as a nice homestead vibe which will give the 'homely' place some people are looking for right away, but the system will continue to be improved and will ultimately become instanced housing in essence (like the cheap first step might be a house you can build that is pre-built and has housing features- like inn rooms, later apartment room, later apartment room system upgrades, etc).

[Jojoya]

FC houses provide apartments for every member, workshops and an actually active ward. Nice slippery slope argument though.

Player can buy apartments instead of worrying about losing their private chambers when leaving/removed from their FC.

Workshops tend to be the plaything of officers that keep the loot for themselves.

The Empyreum ward my FC is in has only FC houses. Is the ward active when I'm there (and I'm there several times a day)?

No. An individual FC house might be active but the ward itself is not because members at usually at their house, not running around the ward.

The wards will never live up to their potential because the design doesn't take into account that this game is not primarily about housing. The bulk of the content is elsewhere so players spend the bulk of their time elsewhere. With what little time they do spend at their housing, they're more likely to be in it than wandering around in the ward outside it.

I'm not looking to have FC houses removed, but I'm also not looking to have personal houses removed either. What I want is for SE to fix the system so every player has the ability to engage with it fully instead of limiting that engagement to the handful of players who are the officers in a FC.

I love how everyone is simply going at each other's throats and attempting to remove content that they deem useless, redundant and unnecessary despite it clearly being valuable to other people.

Why can't we just even out the the personal house to fc house ratio? It definitely shouldn't be what it is currently. 50:50 or more likely a little more towards 55-70ish for personal houses since FCs should be more condensed. There's no reason to outright remove either though.

Evening out the ratio would help a little but still wouldn't solve the overall supply problem. There are far more players than there are FCs.

[SturmChurro]

FC houses provide apartments for every member, workshops and an actually active ward. Nice slippery slope argument though.

People say it provides an active ward, but I have yet to see that.