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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    I have to wonder where that ends then. The Ancients desire for comfort would ultimately lead them to destruction, so is oblivion better than pain? Is it ever acceptable to cause pain, or is the ultimate good simply to maximize comfort?

    After all that’s ultimately the dilemma Venat faced.
    I don't believe that comfort leads to destruction, nor that pain is necessary to feel joy. I think they would have gotten on just fine if Venat hadn't decided to take the agency of every single one of the Ancients and instead told them why the Final Days were happening so they could fix them.

    Edit to add: Before you bring up the Plenty, I again point out that what caused their destruction was not their level of comfort, but two other things. Their immortality, and their hive mind. I am not saying conflict is unnecessary, but conflict can be handled with negotiation and debate, which is how the Ancients dealt with such typically. The hive mind mostly, I feel. Without any way to have differences in order to have such debates, life gets boring. It isn't strife that adds flavor to life, or pain, it's the differences in mindsets.
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    Last edited by redheadturk; 06-10-2022 at 02:31 AM.

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