The problem with people complaining that there's no content

[Kaurhz]

Not that I disagree with you, as I personally think there is an overabundance of content, which is actually the more overarching issue. They implement a lot of systems that they in reality fail to expand upon or innovate. Plenty of current systems could easily be migrated into a larger, more significant singular system that ultimately has a higher level of replayability than if they were to remain separate.

Besides, you need to keep in mind that some groups of players just simply aren't incentivized beyond self-gratification and instead need in-game systems to justify every single decision being made, as if to micro-manage how they play the game. Personally, I'm driven extensively by achievement hunting. Whether it be on this game or other games. But if I am, to be frank, beyond my own self-satisfaction, some of these systems I do actually see little value or impact in the grand scheme of things.

To put it into perspective. I have nigh on close to 17,000 achievement points, and an additional 10,000 almost on an alt character. Each with approx. 200-320 achievement tokens. Now I posit the question for you or anyone. What is the point of this for many people if they fail to expand on the reward structure? Smaller things like this ultimately create a higher level of replay value for many players, if they aren't in it for self-satisfaction. Imagine the value of achievement tokens if they managed to funnel rewards that expand beyond just a funnel for the previous (now tossed away) veteran reward structure. (You essentially get all the rewards just simply by playing the story)

To summarise; I don't really think the issue people actually have is correlated to lack of content, but rather the substance of existing content, and more importantly the significance of it in the grand scheme of things. Sure, you can get all the achievements, so what? -- Sure you can raid on all classes, so what? -- Sure, you can attain all valor in Bozja, so what? Sure, you can level everything to 90, so what?

[Zaniel]

To summarise; I don't really think the issue people actually have is correlated to lack of content, but rather the substance of existing content, and more importantly the significance of it in the grand scheme of things. Sure, you can get all the achievements, so what? -- Sure you can raid on all classes, so what? -- Sure, you can attain all valor in Bozja, so what? Sure, you can level everything to 90, so what?

But that is sort of a weird MMO-nihilism, "nothing matters so don't do anything". If they provided some endless direct character enhancement grind then all the OCD players (like 95% of the population of all MMOs) will feel obligated to grind it no matter the minuscule nature of the rewards which is completely against their design philosophy. There is NEVER going to be an endless power grind in this game, if that is what keeps a person playing then it is 100% legitimate to say "you are playing the wrong MMO".

Additionally every one of these complaint posts asks for something different, one posts asks for the FF14 equivalent of Mythic dungeons from WoW, the next wants 8,000 hours of voice acted cutscenes every patch and half of them can't even clearly state what they want, just a nebulous sort of insult towards the devs. Even the guys who want something like Mythic Dungeons if you ask most of them they haven't finished PoD or HoH, Bozja/Eureka, Savage or any number of actual gameplay related systems but then turn around and rage that their complaint is still valid; some dude complaining a day or two ago hadn't even finished the MSQ and was complaining about lack of quests, the day before that some dude wanted more end game raiding and the last time he did Savage was in early ShB. I mean like what? The thing they want is in the game but they refuse to do it, there is nothing Yoshi-P can do to solve that.

If people want to post these sorts of complaints, fine go for it, but they need to come with detailed explanations and outlines of exactly what THEY find fun and what they want. When you ask for specifics they can't provide them and then the raging starts. Anyone who just says "other MMOs blah blah blah insult" clearly hasn't played any other MMO before.