Just Another Housing Complaint

[ValkyriaCrystalis]

Thanks for taking the time to read my complaint.

I appreciate that you agree that it's my own fault that I don't have a house, but I have to say that opinion is wrong.

The flaw in your logic is that you then go on to describe your own experience as evidence and assume that my experience should be the same. It was not. Regardless of you and your husband's dedication and stick-to-it-tiveness, the primary, deciding factor that got you your houses was just blind luck - you were at the right place, at the right time to right-click a sign at the exact moment all the other bots and players weren't trying to click it. You got lucky. Then, you turned around, pulled up the ladder behind you, hopped on the forums and told people that if they just wasted more of their time they would be able to get to experience a basic part of the game. It's akin to people who think tuition shouldn't be free because they paid tuition. It's just a mentality of paying misery forward, which I disagree with.

In a system based on luck, no amount of rolling up your sleeves and exerting just a bit more effort is going to guarantee you win. For all you know, I have spent twice or thrice as much time as you clicking on signs. That doesn't guarantee me a house. The moral of the story is you should appreciate that you simply got lucky, avoid blaming players who have not, and really take an honest, objective look at the problem. If you did, I'm certain you would also see your position is wrong.

If SE can give us each our own island, something that each and every character will be entitled to, something that appears to be far more server-intensive than housing, without any of this misery, than there's no defense for the current suffering that is the player housing system.

Except the fact that, when I bought it, the placard thing was not implemented.
I was lucky a spot was free at this time, on that I can agree very well.
So what I genuinely not understand is that : you are on this game since a very long time, so why didn’t you try before the placard war nightmare?
I totally agree this system of luck is pure garbage, but back then it wasn’t. And it was more easy to make gils.

Sorry if I sound aggressive, English isn’t my main language and I wasn’t aiming for bashing you.

I’m really in favour on instanced housing as I said in others threads, this way everyone could finally have a house.
I forgot to add in my previous post but like you, I think if we are all paying the same sub, we all should have access to houses, period. But the amount of work to make gils in game is the player responsibility.
If you have the money, you should be able to by a house, of any size.

I wish you can secure one, one day !

[Fybrile]

So what I genuinely not understand is that : you are on this game since a very long time, so why didn’t you try before the placard war nightmare?

My point is that I did, but also that that's not really relevant.

Do a quick google search for "FFXIV player housing released" and you'll see that even in the announcement articles, people have been disillusioned and mislead by the developers of this game since the beginning. I don't believe you'll find a single article written in a positive light. From the beginning Yoshi-P has been apologizing for the lack of houses, and they have not backed up these apologies with meaningful action since then.

The unspoken premise of your disbelief is that it's unbelievable someone who's played since 2.0 (or, in my case, before) wouldn't have a house. If that were true, this forum wouldn't be overflowing with the exact same complaint, changeless, since before patch 2.38. If you go back all the way to 2014, you see the same threads again and again and again and again and again and again. And the same apology again and again and again and again. Even when they add new wards, they're still apologizing with the announcements, because they know they're far, far short of the number of plots needed for the player base. There are 100 plots in a Ward right? 25 wards? 4 districts. So, around like 10,000 plots on a server. The server populations are between 80,000 - 100,000 each. And, let's say half of those plots are for FCs, not players.

THAT'S SE PROVIDING HOUSING FOR 0.5% OF THE POPULATON.

It's indefensible.


There are just two sides to this fence. The one that agrees with the complaint, and the one where you've already got lucky and want to pull the ladder up behind you.

But, what you're basically asking me for is my own personal story, so I'll try my best to recall what happened 8 years ago.

When they were released in 2.38, I had been on the Hyperion, a Legacy server. At the time, it was one of the more populated servers, and they had variable pricing for houses, which - if my memory serves me - led to small plots on my server costing around 7 million gil. I'm not 100% certain how long that lasted, but what I recall is that 7 million was the amount I was working towards. At the release of housing, I had around 5 million gil on my main character - which I don't think was an abnormally low amount of gil at the time. Unless you were a crafter back then - which I wasn't - there wasn't a lot of ways to make gil. This was before a lot of the gil bonuses that players benefit from today.

When housing was released, it was for FCs only - so that's why I didn't get one in the first wave. And then when private housing was released, I didn't have 7 million. If I recall correctly, I didn't get to the amount I needed until around patch 2.5 - by which time the few dozen small plots (I think there was like 10 wards only at the time, so like a couple thousand private plots for a server of probably like 80,000 at the time) had long sold out. As Legacy players, many of them had tons of gil burning a hole in their pockets.

I had heard that the newer servers had houses all the way up until 3.0, but at the time I had friends on Hyperion and I'd been there since Leviathan was shut down, and I really didn't want to play on a non-legacy server, so that wasn't an option for me. And, believe it or not, I'm a patient, quiet guy and I felt like: "one day, I'll get that house. No worries." When a plot did become available, I'd sit there for my entire play session and try to get it. But, I wouldn't pull an all-nighter, because that's really unhealthy and harming yourself isn't something I'm willing to do for a video game. So, that's how I missed the 2nd wave.

But, housing really didn't really change from then on. There would be new wards added from time to time, which I'd race to get - and fail. I don't remember when they added the sign - but it's all I've ever known so it must have been pretty early on in the timeline. In 3.0 I took trying to get a plot a bit more seriously, and against my better judgement, I did pull all-nighters trying to get the worst plots of land in districts I didn't even want to be in. Usually with between 8 and 15 other players. Not only did I never get a plot, I never even saw the end to a hidden timer. Inevitably, I'd either have to go to bed or go to work, and when I came back there was a house there.

In 4.0, I became disillusioned with the game a bit (one large reason being housing). And, while I maintained my subscription, I was taking a break at the release of the Kugane housing.

I hope that suffices as enough of a backstory. I really shouldn't have to provide one. Regardless of what one might try to say, I know that I have done more than enough (frankly, far too much) to get a house in this game. The kneejerk reaction from the players here shouldn't be to disbelieve people when they take the time to post a complaint on this forum.