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    Why do people always suggest instanced housing? There is a reason a lot of us are obsessed with housing in this game. It is very rare for a game to have non-instanced housing and it is the reason I started playing the game in the first place. I don't even participate in combat in the game; I just like the housing. So no, we can't just have instanced housing because it would ruin the whole point of housing for some people. More wards, and unfortunately more SE money spent on servers, is the only way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiproberts View Post
    Why do people always suggest instanced housing? There is a reason a lot of us are obsessed with housing in this game. It is very rare for a game to have non-instanced housing and it is the reason I started playing the game in the first place. I don't even participate in combat in the game; I just like the housing. So no, we can't just have instanced housing because it would ruin the whole point of housing for some people. More wards, and unfortunately more SE money spent on servers, is the only way.
    I mean you could have both. If we are able to have every player have their own personal island alongside wards already existing. Why can we not also have instanced houses o.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiproberts View Post
    Why do people always suggest instanced housing? There is a reason a lot of us are obsessed with housing in this game. It is very rare for a game to have non-instanced housing and it is the reason I started playing the game in the first place. I don't even participate in combat in the game; I just like the housing. So no, we can't just have instanced housing because it would ruin the whole point of housing for some people. More wards, and unfortunately more SE money spent on servers, is the only way.
    We always suggest it, because obviously the current structure of the NOC cannot support housing in its current state. 37 million active accounts, of those let's just take 1 million that are actively playing. Now count houses. Look at the boards at all the pissed off people. There is obviously a disconnect here.

    It wouldn't ruin anything, and more wards is not the only way. They can support instanced housing to accommodate both the neighborhood whiners and the instanced housing introverts. I've explained how so many times, I'm tired of doing it again, but they can pull it off with the structure in place.

    People keep screaming "MOAR WARDZ!!11" and SE keeps telling us "MOAR HRDWRZ!!!11" that they can't get a hold of. Use what you got, use it wisely. With how much they have thrown at housing already in total, I'm more than sure they can satisfy the player base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    We always suggest it, because obviously the current structure of the NOC cannot support housing in its current state. 37 million active accounts, of those let's just take 1 million that are actively playing. Now count houses. Look at the boards at all the pissed off people. There is obviously a disconnect here.

    It wouldn't ruin anything, and more wards is not the only way. They can support instanced housing to accommodate both the neighborhood whiners and the instanced housing introverts. I've explained how so many times, I'm tired of doing it again, but they can pull it off with the structure in place.

    People keep screaming "MOAR WARDZ!!11" and SE keeps telling us "MOAR HRDWRZ!!!11" that they can't get a hold of. Use what you got, use it wisely. With how much they have thrown at housing already in total, I'm more than sure they can satisfy the player base.
    This game has 37 million total created accounts. It does not have 37 million active accounts. At best the active sub count is probably a little over 2 million.

    Either way, instanced housing isn't going to happen. Yoshi-P has stated that very clearly in the past that its not going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    This game has 37 million total created accounts. It does not have 37 million active accounts. At best the active sub count is probably a little over 2 million.

    Either way, instanced housing isn't going to happen. Yoshi-P has stated that very clearly in the past that its not going to happen.
    Well, we either need more wards, at least two new housing zones, or instanced housing. Based on the number of bids I saw on personal placards this cycle, I would estimate that at least 1000 players have entered this lottery already on Balmung, and there are probably more who either did not play this week or have not placed a bid yet who also want a house. It is not quite as severe on other worlds, but all (except maybe oceania ones) have a shortage. I am not a programmer but I would guess that instanced housing would be the least demanding solution in terms of server use. Either way, I am hoping we can get Square Enix to notice this issue and do something about it. Any kind of added housing would be helpful at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailani View Post
    Well, we either need more wards, at least two new housing zones, or instanced housing. Based on the number of bids I saw on personal placards this cycle, I would estimate that at least 1000 players have entered this lottery already on Balmung, and there are probably more who either did not play this week or have not placed a bid yet who also want a house. It is not quite as severe on other worlds, but all (except maybe oceania ones) have a shortage. I am not a programmer but I would guess that instanced housing would be the least demanding solution in terms of server use. Either way, I am hoping we can get Square Enix to notice this issue and do something about it. Any kind of added housing would be helpful at this point.
    I would argue they don't see it as an issue because their intent was never for everyone to have a house. They want players to share houses with their FC because they want the housing to be a neighborhood. Everything outside of the MSQ has always focused on some type of social design and housing is no different.
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    Except it turns out that people already have to share living spaces with others in real life because housing is prohibitively expensive. No one wants to share a house in a VIDEO GAME. On top of that, the item placement limits are abysmal for more than 1 designer. Most of us use 1 floor in our house to decorate and block off the other 2 floors. The whole system was designed for an older game and it was left largely untouched. They need to modernize it somehow, maybe instanced wards, maybe more wards, who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    I would argue they don't see it as an issue because their intent was never for everyone to have a house. They want players to share houses with their FC because they want the housing to be a neighborhood. Everything outside of the MSQ has always focused on some type of social design and housing is no different.
    People can change their minds. And hopefully when they see how how much demand there is for personal housing, and how many players want a house or even an apartment and cannot get one under the current system, they will change their minds and make it so everyone can get a house if they want one. Also, they are currently working on island sanctuaries, which are primarily solo content, customizable, and instanced. The social aspect is that you can invite people to see them if you choose to. A new form of instanced housing could easily work the exact same way, and in my opinion, would make sense to have on the same island as the gardening and chocobo content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailani View Post
    People can change their minds. And hopefully when they see how how much demand there is for personal housing, and how many players want a house or even an apartment and cannot get one under the current system, they will change their minds and make it so everyone can get a house if they want one. Also, they are currently working on island sanctuaries, which are primarily solo content, customizable, and instanced. The social aspect is that you can invite people to see them if you choose to. A new form of instanced housing could easily work the exact same way, and in my opinion, would make sense to have on the same island as the gardening and chocobo content.
    That "demand" has been a thing since 2014. I wouldn't expect them to change their stance on it. Island Sanctuaries is likely their answer to the content locked behind housing like gardening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    Look at the boards at all the pissed off people. There is obviously a disconnect here.
    To play devil's advocate a little, an official forum of pissed off people is situation normal. The best way to tell the state of your class on these forums is simply to see how few people are talking about that.

    There's absolutely a supply and demand problem for housing, but citing a displeased player representation on the forums is like saying "instanced housing because sky is blue".
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