NO GROUP WANTS SAM FOR DSR WITHOUT LOGS??

[Kabouter]

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[Neoyoshi]

Uuuuuuhhhhhh.....

I feel like half the community went over this already.

If anyone is asking for what you are describing; screenshot the conversation, and report them.

No one should be asking for that, and if they are, they need to be reported; because if they are asking for a "damage log" they are talking about something that is strictly against the Terms of Service.

[Ruminous]

The devs are going to do nothing about this...Because there is no obligation for them to do anything about it. They can't tell players to take samurais into groups or exclude them because we the players have the right to decide who goes and who doesn't. Would it make sense for yoship to come over and tell you that you have to take that bard? No, it wouldn't.

Best you can do is just report them, for all the good it'll do. But, here's the thing. Ultimate fights are demanding, challenging, and more importantly, set up differently than a typical savage fight. Some classes excel at these kinds of fights strictly because of how they're laid out. Samurai has never been the best choice for ultimates, despite being able to clear them. I know, I played samurai for every ultimate up till now. I know you're ranting, and it sucks, but you can't expect the devs to force people to take you into their groups either. It'd just breed resentment among your peers, and that's just as bad as being excluded.

[Picker]

Wait till you try and get into a parse farm and see that Sam/blm/mch are blocked from most of them

[Martynek]

sorry mate but you don't get to crybully others into allowing you into their spaces
if they want you in the group they'll invite you, if not find another group.

[AsiTsurugi]

I can't get over the fact that every group doing DSR is asking for 80 - 90% parses. How am I supposed to find a DSR static without doing log runs?

What are the devs planning to do about this? I need an answer please.

Are there no normal groups that give people a chance without having the idiotic mindset that only the top 10% of players can meet the dps check? Actually HILLARIOUS!

This is the pinnacle of stupidity. I can't believe people see this as the only viable metric for giving someone a chance in DSU. 90% of the players with high parses are doing log runs for hours upon hours, how does this make them any better than me or anyone else who play their class at an optimal level?

They literally just do more damage because they handpick their group composition and that entire group dumps all the raid buffs possible on them in a run to give them as high % as possible. I will be waiting for the tryhards telling me this is not true, we are just better that's why our attacks hit harder. LMAO. Go waste your time somewhere else.

But hey... "we don't care let's continue being as selfish as we possibly can and only include the top 10% of players in our groups. We don't care if you do mechanics extremely consistently or if you have an actual working brain and game sense"

I think the issue here is not the fact that you are playing samurai (but I definitely can see that being a reason they give to exclude given how anti-synergistic that job is now), but it's more to see if you are capable of making DPS checks. I don't particularly agree that you *need* extremely high savage logs to prove that you can meet DPS checks in DSR, because those logs don't give enough information about your ability to perform in a current ultimate unless they show you cleared the savage tier week 1 or 2. Outside of that, I would say just having you trial for a day or two would give more of an indication of how consistent you are with mechanics and if they are running into DPS issues because of you(r choice of job) as opposed looking at savage logs, especially since Asphodelos was not even particularly difficult to clear.

[Stasya]

I think the issue here is not the fact that you are playing samurai (but I definitely can see that being a reason they give to exclude given how anti-synergistic that job is now), but it's more to see if you are capable of making DPS checks. I don't particularly agree that you *need* extremely high savage logs to prove that you can meet DPS checks in DSR, because those logs don't give enough information about your ability to perform in a current ultimate unless they show you cleared the savage tier week 1 or 2. Outside of that, I would say just having you trial for a day or two would give more of an indication of how consistent you are with mechanics and if they are running into DPS issues because of you(r choice of job) as opposed looking at savage logs, especially since Asphodelos was not even particularly difficult to clear.

OP just thinks that every color of parse is crit damage farm and doesnt see that this is current and hardest ultimate, not savage where you can get carried by everyone having 590+ from start or by helpers/reclearers in pf party that can do savage fights blindfolded at this point.

Logs to some degree show that you atleast know your rotation and you know keep uptime on boss. I do agree that 95-100 doesnt tell anything besides if its week 1-2 but he said about 80-90% this is literally fits into "have bis no rotation mistakes" category.

If op is not a troll i suggest him rather do ucob/uwu first and change mindset about logs and how people recruit for statics in general.

Wait till you try and get into a parse farm and see that Sam/blm/mch are blocked from most of them

Sam will be blocked for sure in 6.2, right now pf logs are pretty much dead so everyone is welcome

[Frizze]

I feel like if someone applied up to one of these groups with a 75% parse and a good attitude, theyd get further in the screening process. You want top performers, and of course there is a low enough level that would make checks harder to clear, but isnt attitude and fit still like 1/2 of what a static needs? And seeing as them asking for this is bothering you so much, would you really want to be in their group anyway? The way i see it, there are 4 solutions:

1. Talk to them. Maybe they say that they want that to scare away the chumps.
2. Dont change a thing, keep looking and hope to find a group that loves you for you. Even though you play a lala. Seems unlikely.
3. Make your own static. Youre in charge now, so you set the requirements for entry.
4. Join the inevitable(and mostly doomed) PUG scene. Ultra-frustrating option, but if you meet the right people and SHOW that you can perform then with or without logs you might just find/form a static that has much better odds.

Because just complaining on the forums and not changing anything will solve nothing.

[SeiyaSoiya]

what do you mean groups don't want people based on parses?
isn't parsing used exclusively for self improvement?

[CKNovel]

Alright, clearly the author of this topic is pointing out the "logs" problem, but I see another problem there.

DSR is the hardest content as of now. It's natural a group would like a proof of experience that you are capable of clearing DSR in the window of time they are aiming at.

Basing myself on the OP's achievement:
-Never cleared any ultimate
-Cleared Pandæmonium: Asphodelos (Savage) on April 16, actively raiding from mid-January.
-Lacks clear in many Extreme content (EW EX cleared but not all ShB EX)

Without even looking at the colored number, I would refuse OP's application on the simple basis that they lack experience.
It's understanble why they would check the colored numbers as you have nothing to back-up any experience.

Their argument may be against ToS, but even without the colored number arguments, I would look for a better candidate.
You may want to gain experience through UCOB/UWU/TEA before aiming at DSR.