NO GROUP WANTS SAM FOR DSR WITHOUT LOGS??

[Kabouter]

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[Neoyoshi]

Uuuuuuhhhhhh.....

I feel like half the community went over this already.

If anyone is asking for what you are describing; screenshot the conversation, and report them.

No one should be asking for that, and if they are, they need to be reported; because if they are asking for a "damage log" they are talking about something that is strictly against the Terms of Service.

[Ruminous]

The devs are going to do nothing about this...Because there is no obligation for them to do anything about it. They can't tell players to take samurais into groups or exclude them because we the players have the right to decide who goes and who doesn't. Would it make sense for yoship to come over and tell you that you have to take that bard? No, it wouldn't.

Best you can do is just report them, for all the good it'll do. But, here's the thing. Ultimate fights are demanding, challenging, and more importantly, set up differently than a typical savage fight. Some classes excel at these kinds of fights strictly because of how they're laid out. Samurai has never been the best choice for ultimates, despite being able to clear them. I know, I played samurai for every ultimate up till now. I know you're ranting, and it sucks, but you can't expect the devs to force people to take you into their groups either. It'd just breed resentment among your peers, and that's just as bad as being excluded.

[Kabouter]

The devs are going to do nothing about this...Because there is no obligation for them to do anything about it. They can't tell players to take samurais into groups or exclude them because we the players have the right to decide who goes and who doesn't. Would it make sense for yoship to come over and tell you that you have to take that bard? No, it wouldn't.

Best you can do is just report them, for all the good it'll do. But, here's the thing. Ultimate fights are demanding, challenging, and more importantly, set up differently than a typical savage fight. Some classes excel at these kinds of fights strictly because of how they're laid out. Samurai has never been the best choice for ultimates, despite being able to clear them. I know, I played samurai for every ultimate up till now. I know you're ranting, and it sucks, but you can't expect the devs to force people to take you into their groups either. It'd just breed resentment among your peers, and that's just as bad as being excluded.

You are one of 2 or 3 people here that understand what my rant was about and I appreciate the good advice. Thank you.

My wording wasn't the best and it pissed a lot of people off so I deleted it once I calmed down, but like most people I reached a point where I was sick and tired of something and the forums are the only place I thought of venting, big mistake though as I am probably one the most hated people here after my rant. This is my 2nd thread and will be the last.

[Ruminous]

You are one of 2 or 3 people here that understand what my rant was about and I appreciate the good advice. Thank you.

My wording wasn't the best and it pissed a lot of people off so I deleted it once I calmed down, but like most people I reached a point where I was sick and tired of something and the forums are the only place I thought of venting, big mistake though as I am probably one the most hated people here after my rant. This is my 2nd thread and will be the last.

Yeah, venting on the forums is very hit or miss. But if it's tied to something completely player fueled, there's very little the devs can do about it. Even if we cut away logs, people would look for other ways for you to prove yourself. But speaking as someone who has been excluded because of class choice, I've known how it feels and how frustrating it is. People sometimes need a chance to soar, and not everyone likes to give it. As many have said, logs are just there to show you have some grasp of your class and weren't just carried through the content. Still doesn't mean you're good, but shows you do have aptitude.

Still, if you're that determined to get in there, then keep trying. If one thing doesn't work, try something different. Who knows, maybe you'll learn something new? But, in the future, try and find friends or someone who'll listen to you rant. Public forums don't always invite the best of us, or the most empathetic.

[darkdyllon]

You are one of 2 or 3 people here that understand what my rant was about and I appreciate the good advice. Thank you.

My wording wasn't the best and it pissed a lot of people off so I deleted it once I calmed down, but like most people I reached a point where I was sick and tired of something and the forums are the only place I thought of venting, big mistake though as I am probably one the most hated people here after my rant. This is my 2nd thread and will be the last.

your original post came off as "waaah, people decline me because i'm not an parser"
the main issue is that you were venting about an problem that SE won't ever do anything about because of an very simple fact.
if it was for Savage, joining an casual static they rarely ask for logs, but once you got higher than casual they slowly ask for logs, why? because they want to see how concistent you are, they can analyze your logs, see what you parsed, see what your personal DPS is (for SAM RDPS is concistent because you don't give DPS to others)
see where you died and perhaps even see an growth. (i went from an 0-1% rdm parser to 80-90% rdm parser for example)

people don't want to waste their time trialing you out, you might be a good fit personality wise, but we're talking about ultimate, not casual content, you might fit personality wise, but do you fit playstyle wise?
as some have pointed out, applying for statics is very much like an job application, you got competition, then you need to outperform your competition, sure it's not according to ToS, but prove it, screenshot the discord message and report it, open that can of worms, then we won't talk about parses in discord either and we create that toxic minefield there aswel.

when i applied for statics i just gave them my fflogs profile, most were like "we don't need them, we'll trial you out" some liked me, some didn't, that's how it is.

[Picker]

Wait till you try and get into a parse farm and see that Sam/blm/mch are blocked from most of them

[Martynek]

sorry mate but you don't get to crybully others into allowing you into their spaces
if they want you in the group they'll invite you, if not find another group.

[Kabouter]

Not trying bully anyone into taking me. Are you joking lol? You clearly didn't even read my post. People like you are ruining the game and not giving many good players a chance because all their tiny brains care about is parses from people who spend hours doing log runs like robots. NOTHING skillful about that and it it shouldn't be the only indication that a player knows what they are doing. "I have an entire group buff the hell out of me so that makes me better than the rest". Sure buddy.

[Baxcel]

Not trying bully anyone into taking me. Are you joking lol? You clearly didn't even read my post. People like you are ruining the game and not giving many good players a chance because all their tiny brains care about is parses from people who spend hours doing log runs like robots. NOTHING skillful about that and it it shouldn't be the only indication that a player knows what they are doing. "I have an entire group buff the hell out of me so that makes me better than the rest". Sure buddy.

As someone said above, by checking your loadstone you've barely cleared any Savage raids, you've not clear any of the pervious Ultimates, plus the fact that SAM is a greedy class with no group synergies leaves you at a place that no one will want to accept you.

If your going to be childish and make a post with a full cap title and then expect people to be sympathetic for your problems while you insult the way that most hard core raiders function then you came to the wrong place.