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    Yeah dude, making apartments better would be fantastic. I've been saying for a while that they should just up the furniture cap on everything. For me personally, if my apartment had a doubled furniture capacity and some kind of genuine gardening element, I'd be a lot happier with the decorating side of things. Also, unrelated, but letting all property owners save their furniture loadouts like one saves glam plates, would be phenomenal. In this way, you could decorate to your heart's content, save it to a housing plate, and then tear everything down and decorate again without losing anything; you could go back to your first setup with one click. Or you could have general living arrangements, save those, and then swap to a halloween theme in October with one click. etc. I'm getting into pipe dream stuff, so I'll stop. But yeah I agree! Make apartments better, and less people will want a house.


    Quote Originally Posted by Yshtola_Cat View Post
    It's almost comical at this point how everyone and their lalafell want to make apartments more appealing while also failing to address that they already are cheaper and permanent. So sure, you want apartments to be bigger. Potentially the size of a medium or a large house. What's the tradeoff here because frankly, throwing out more gil isn't it.

    Square Enix will not make the additional hardware they have purchased for wards become obsolete just so that apartments can be supposedly more appealing. So how do you bonify apartments while also keeping houses relevant? How do you prevent the outrage from house owners when they suddenly have a better housing option than current apartments? Do you pull a patch 2.3 and tell them **** you and whatever gil or money you have spent?
    This whole post reads like the only reason you bought a house was to lord some false sense of superiority over other people who didn't luck their way into one. Someone suggests improving apartments so more players can enjoy decorating, and you're malding because now they'll finally have a feature that you've enjoyed for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    Can use the same excuse SE has been using for 8 years. Its in a ward and not instanced on its own. You get the neighborhood feeling for living in a house vice living in an apartment. There is nothing preventing home owners from also buying an apartment if they are so inclined as well, it's not like we are deleting everyone's house and forcing them to go into an apartment.
    Congrats, you didn't read.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    This whole post reads like the only reason you bought a house was to lord some false sense of superiority over other people who didn't luck their way into one. Someone suggests improving apartments so more players can enjoy decorating, and you're malding because now they'll finally have a feature that you've enjoyed for years.
    I own a house for workshop purposes. I don't care about your pseudo analysis of why I have a house. OP is suggesting improving apartments, cool. Anybody can make any kind of suggestion. You've made that suggestion, but they're all meaningless unless they have been thought through. To my knowledge, this hasn't been the case and nobody, who's made that suggestion before, including yourself, has addressed the problem that comes along with said suggestion. So please, keep your projections to yourself next time or at the very least, make some sort of intellectual effort to support the OP... I'm sure you're capable.

    My point still stands, you can't have a permanent system working alongside a non-permanent one when the two are equal in other aspects. Maybe that works out in your head, but that's exactly where it's gonna stay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshtola_Cat View Post
    Congrats, you didn't read.
    That or I think your complaint is a non-issue, just like you seem to think our complaints about apartments are a non-issue. Houses are still there, wards are still there. I am not advocating for any of their removals. Just because you improve apartments doesn't mean anything negative has to happen to houses. In fact it just gives further opportunity for home owners to do different things in a new location with an apartment. If you are worried about demolishing of houses, that can be a valid issue on its own, however, who knows if or when they will start demolishing houses again. The uncertainty of house demolishing is probably my biggest problem with the entire idea since no one can plan around it, on top of it being such a short timer at 45 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshtola_Cat View Post
    My point still stands, you can't have a permanent system working alongside a non-permanent one when the two are equal in other aspects. Maybe that works out in your head, but that's exactly where it's gonna stay.
    Yes, you can. You're right, there would likely be some outrage because someone has to be outraged at everything just to pitch a fit. However, I highly doubt it would be a meaningful portion of the player population, with the vast majority being VERY happy for the addition. An easy resolution when adding upgraded apartments would simply be to shut off the demolition timer and -poof- you've got permanent ward housing with no loss of investment.

    I have a house and two apartments. If we were given the option to upgrade the apartments to a permanent space using current house floor plans (with or without a garden plot), I'd blow all my gil doing it without any hard feelings about needing to continue interacting with my ward house. Landscaping and hanging out in my yard is equally important to me as interior decorating and hosting RP events, so I consider having to maintain my sub a fair price to pay for the ability to do those activities.

    Even if we had to maintain our sub to keep a ward house, considering we have the ability to relocate, I wouldn't be surprised if a fair portion of the people who currently have a ward house would relocate to an apartment of the same size in short order.


    All that's to say, having ward housing and upgraded apartments aren't at all incompatible and having both would only benefit the player base.
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