Endwalker is the most controversial expansion

[Xirean]

Random thought. Does the Trust system make it harder for the writers to kill off characters?

[DPZ2]

just my 2 cents.

Well written, at least from the perspective of what is frustrating you the most in-game. Be prepared for other answers that are unlike your own.

My own perspective on MMORPGs in general: ask yourself "Am I enjoying this game more than I'm frustrated with it?". If the answer is yes, I keep playing. If the answer is no, I stop paying for it and reclaim the disk space.

[Fiel_Tana]

Random thought. Does the Trust system make it harder for the writers to kill off characters?

It's possible the trust system is making the writers more hesitant, but they could use any of the new characters we meet. Honestly, I'd prefer that since I no longer feel any real connection with most of the scions.

[DPZ2]

Random thought. Does the Trust system make it harder for the writers to kill off characters?

Not really. What you were doing on the First has no bearing on who you can invite to a Trust in future expansions. You will always encounter those 'dead' characters during New Game + and while leveling Alts.

[RyuDragnier]

Random thought. Does the Trust system make it harder for the writers to kill off characters?

Considering Ktisis...no. I think it's more that they decided everybody would live after the bleakness of Shadowbringers, to fit with the theme of "hope" for Endwalker.

[Xirean]

Not really. What you were doing on the First has no bearing on who you can invite to a Trust in future expansions. You will always encounter those 'dead' characters during New Game + and while leveling Alts.

True, but the trusts for ShB are the same ones for the entire expansion. Sure some aren't available during the initial run of the story, but rerunning stuff they are there. It makes me wonder if the thought is "if this character dies then we can't let players take them into new dungeons" even if those new dungeons are part of the current expansion.

Edit: Correct me if I'm wrong, but Ryne can't go into ShB dungeons that are on the Source?

[aveyond-dreams]

Considering Ktisis...no. I think it's more that they decided everybody would live after the bleakness of Shadowbringers, to fit with the theme of "hope" for Endwalker.

A theme that fell flat given the overwhelming preachy tone of Endwalker's writing.

[Haruka_R]

He is an adult father figure to Ryne. He should have reacted like any father would if he learned his child was in mortal danger. He could have screamed, cursed, shown any hint of emotion. Instead he just stood there and took it like a robot.

He didn't act like that because he's an adult. Like you said. And if he did, he would've turned into a Blasphemy.

[aveyond-dreams]

He didn't act like that because he's an adult. Like you said. And if he did, he would've turned into a Blasphemy.

This may come as a surprise to you but men do tend to act that way when the people they love are in danger. They get angry, and do what needs to be done. Thancred's passive behavior was as shameful as it was boring. For someone who fought tooth and nail for his adopted daughter to simply stand there was unbelievable.

As averse as I am to trying to link in-game scenarios to real life-not too long ago there was a situation in which parents openly defied the powers at be in order to directly intervene and rescue their children for a deadly situation. Thancred, given all we saw of him in Shadowbringers, would have led the van from the front in such a situation.

Instead the Thancred of EW just gave a stern look at most. Give me a break.

[Haruka_R]

This may come as a surprise to you but men do tend to act that way when the people they love are in danger. They get angry, and do what needs to be done. Thancred's passive behavior was as shameful as it was boring. For someone who fought tooth and nail for his adopted daughter to simply stand there was unbelievable.

As averse as I am to trying to link in-game scenarios to real life-not too long ago there was a situation in which parents openly defied the powers at be in order to directly intervene and rescue their children for a deadly situation. Thancred, given all we saw of him in Shadowbringers, would have led the van from the front in such a situation.

Instead the Thancred of EW just gave a stern look at most. Give me a break.

So he absolutely has to lose his shit, when he can just do something about it instead? And he actually did express some emotion about it, when he came to our room.