Toxicon Adjustment

[Nizzi]

If Toxicon was oGCD and SGE had 2-3 more DPS actions in its rotation, it's probably all I would play. As it stands now, a "DPS healer" it is not. I realize it's basically improbable that they'd add anything to the job's kit this expac, but a Toxicon rework would be nice. I'm not a fan of buttons you're never able to hit or buttons that are DPS losses to use, and I don't really think SGE needs a "Ruin II" equivalent. Ruin II already is a bad enough button, SGE does not need an entire half of its gauge built around it, especially if SGE can't even use Toxicon on demand. If SGE needs movement tools, give more charges to Icarus.

[Seraphor]

Yes Toxikon is basically Ruin II, but that's part of the problem. You have a large part of the jobs mechanics tied to a minor movement tool, yet that tool is somewhat necessary.
So...

More ways to generate Addersting, preferably ways that don't cost GCD heals. Perhaps Phlegma generates 1 Addersting every time it's used to form a sort of loose combo system.
New skill: Eukrasian Toxikon, potency changed to 450 and 75% less for remaining enemies. The rationale here is Toxikon is a dps neutral movement/weaving tool, but if you Eukrasia it, you spend your weave window for additional damage, like sticking an Energy Drain in there.

[RayneBoemir]

Having leveled SGE and now using it constantly the skill is useful when you need to move, but still attack.

I honestly wouldn’t mind it being oGCD as it would feel more fun.

[DustyBlue]

Maybe there is also the consideration of the visuals: why/how could you be casting your next Dosis laser blast if your nouliths are currently hovering over the enemy? They can't be in two places at the same time... Perhaps an animation change is in order.

I wanted Toxicon to be an oGCD from the start, it just screams multitasking (like scholar's Energy Drain weaves).

Going over the entire concept of the nouliths, it seemed to me the perfect multitasking healer tool; classic sage is supposed to be an absolute master of all magic, and with being able to control 4 separate tools that can all attack or heal, it's strange that there is no animation for using only 1 or 2 nouliths at a time. Like, healing with 2 nouliths while attacking with the other 2. If they are meant to attack and heal at the same time, this would be a good visual indicator of their juggling both tasks across their 4 different magic conduits. And in the Endwalker trailer, it seemed that Alpinaud was able to heal Alisaie with his hands while his nouliths were doing all the attack work further away. If they showed sage animations with them manually controlling all 4 nouliths independent of each other for different tasks, splicing attack and heal animations together by directing 2 groups of nouliths in separate directions, that would drive home their magic master and intelligent aesthetic. And if that seems like a lot of extra animation work than usual, well yes, and they gave sages 3 or 4 different ways to sheate/unsheathe their weapons too.

[ty_taurus]

Reworking Toxikon into an OGCD tool like in PVP can potentially address many of its current issues, but would still fail to address the fact that Dosis III is still cast upwards of 160 times per encounter. leaving it on the GCD at least takes away some of that for the time being if its issues can get worked out otherwise, but SGE needs more variation in its GCD library.

[LeonKeyh]

I really don't think that this would do much to add to the job. Might be interesting from a Kardia standpoint, but I feel like this would be the equivalent of being in a house on fire and using the kitchen sprayer on the fire.

There should be some more significant changes IMO.

[SargeTheSeagull]

Honestly I’m okay with sage’s DPS skills all being gcd. PvP Toxicon feels good to use in PvP but I don’t think it would translate super well. My idea: Toxicon 2 should deal 670 potency. That way it’s just barely damage positive, encourages shielding, and just overall isn’t awful. I’d also like to see Toxicon reduce the cooldown of phlegma by around 30 seconds. Shield your tanks through more stuff, you’re rewarded with more damage.

Bare in mind I also think sage is the second worst designed job in the game and needs a rework far more than any of the other healers except scholar. This would at least make sage better to play and more rewarding.

[Liam_Harper]

I'd rather shielding was encouraged because tanks actually needed it.

Even in Savage I almost never need to use a GCD shield on a tank. They have enough sustain and mitigation that Kardia, Haima, oGCD's and aoe heal are more than enough. Spamming GCD shields on tanks that are purely overheal to unlock more dps just makes no sense from a design perspective.

[SargeTheSeagull]

I'd rather shielding was encouraged because tanks actually needed it.

Even in Savage I almost never need to use a GCD shield on a tank. They have enough sustain and mitigation that Kardia, Haima, oGCD's and aoe heal are more than enough. Spamming GCD shields on tanks that are purely overheal to unlock more dps just makes no sense from a design perspective.

I agree, but that’s not super likely to happen.