Endwalker is the most controversial expansion

[Aluja89]

Tether them together how? You’re still proposing something that makes no sense and has never been shown to work the way you for some reason seem to think it does.

So? You realize it's all fiction right, there are no rules, if there were we wouldn't have the time travel junk. You're also not explaining why it wouldn't work, but if you really want a explanation. Ardbert exists within WoL, the moment he joined us Emet saw glimpses of Azem so that means joining together truly does form back to an ancient, so why couldn't Elidibus search the same frequency Azem's crystal emits through the Crystal Tower like a beacon towards the WoL for a brief moment?

[DPZ2]

So? You realize it's all fiction right, there are no rules, if there were we wouldn't have the time travel junk. You're also not explaining why it wouldn't work, but if you really want a explanation. Ardbert exists within WoL, the moment he joined us Emet saw glimpses of Azem so that means joining together truly does form back to an ancient, so why couldn't Elidibus search the same frequency Azem's crystal emits through the Crystal Tower like a beacon towards the WoL for a brief moment?

And yet there are people complaining about the time travel, even though there "are no rules". Having been exposed to science fiction and fantasy tropes for longer than most posters on these forums have been alive (also, longer than anime has been a viable media), the plot for Endwalker made sense to me. I was not expecting more than your typical MMORPG level of storyline, and was not disappointed.

It isn't classic literature. It isn't post-modern lit. It isn't The Circus of Dr. Lao, Dianetics, the Song of Songs, Pride and Prejudice, nor the Adventures of Sherlock Holmes. I think Shakespeare might have appreciated the level of irony in the story, and Charles Dickens the level of pathos in the story. Then again, I really enjoyed reading John Crowley's Aegypt before it got retitled, and Umberto Eco's Foucault's Pendulum.

A simple explanation about why tethering will never restore the full Warrior of Light/Azem: at least one part of that soul is gone forever thanks to the stupidity of the Unsundered. Or is it?

[Aluja89]

And yet there are people complaining about the time travel, even though there "are no rules". Having been exposed to science fiction and fantasy tropes for longer than most posters on these forums have been alive (also, longer than anime has been a viable media), the plot for Endwalker made sense to me. I was not expecting more than your typical MMORPG level of storyline, and was not disappointed.

It isn't classic literature. It isn't post-modern lit. It isn't The Circus of Dr. Lao, Dianetics, the Song of Songs, Pride and Prejudice, nor the Adventures of Sherlock Holmes. I think Shakespeare might have appreciated the level of irony in the story, and Charles Dickens the level of pathos in the story. Then again, I really enjoyed reading John Crowley's Aegypt before it got retitled, and Umberto Eco's Foucault's Pendulum.

A simple explanation about why tethering will never restore the full Warrior of Light/Azem: at least one part of that soul is gone forever thanks to the stupidity of the Unsundered. Or is it?

I'm getting tired of saying this.

The point was the echo, not my explanation on how to achieve it. I pulled that one out my ass in the moment yet everyone keep being fixated on it.

[DPZ2]

The point was the echo, not my explanation on how to achieve it. I pulled that one out my ass in the moment yet everyone keep being fixated on it.

What would the Echo actually do with the plot in this case? None of the principals are available to us, and every use of the Echo I can remember in-game revolved around someone being present who experienced the visons brought on by the Echo. In any case, Azem wasn't physically present when things went down in Elpis, so any 'soul memory' would be of no use.

[Rolder50]

What would the Echo actually do with the plot in this case? None of the principals are available to us, and every use of the Echo I can remember in-game revolved around someone being present who experienced the visons brought on by the Echo. In any case, Azem wasn't physically present when things went down in Elpis, so any 'soul memory' would be of no use.

It probably wouldn't work exactly as the story was written and would need some adjustments, but they could probably have done something like "The soul crystals you collected during 5.3 are repurposed using the energy of the crystal tower and Elidibus' help to grant you a vision of the past." Then you get maybe a more condensed version of Elpis, perhaps not as an actual zone but maybe like a solo instance or something, where you are watching as a ghost and not actually present. Mind that's just what I came up with off the top of my head and I'm certainly no professional writer.