The MSQ Endwalker Trial Bosses are WAY too hard for newer players to FFXIV

[angienessyo]

I mean, I've been playing since Heavensward, do savage+ultimate, and Zodiark was a rough trial for me. The thing is it's not a difficult fight at all, I think it's just hard for people that can't easily visualize how the rotates+star mechanics work. It's not something you'd traditionally have to figure out in an MMO. I don't think it needs changed at all, the mechanics aren't difficult to overcome, my brain just doesn't work in the way the fight needs so I just follow a danger dorito. Like I know how it works and I've watched many a guide on how to do it but I just can't read it in the moment. I think if the fight were truly hard you wouldn't be able to just have everyone follow 1 person and succeed.

Funnily enough I heard a lot of people complaining that the second EW trial was the hard one and I found it easy af because it was more in line with my skillset in this game. The only hard part is spreads forever being a PVP mechanic if you aren't in a full premade.

[Lihtleita]

And Shinryu before that. OH the Shinryu threads. So many people posting that it was "impossible". I guess the rest of us all hallucinated the shadowbringers and endwalker stories.

shinryu was a fantastic fight though. went through all iconic primal fight mechanics like a final exam. excellent final boss feeling 10/10.

[Elesh]

These fights definitely push players who are not used to high end content to their limits, but... I don't think they do so in an unfair way, personally.

I can understand why people would struggle though, and I do think it's wrong for people to just be like 'ONLY IF YOU BOOSTED AND SUCK'. That's not a healthy attitude towards your fellow players.

[Rilifane]

I mean, I've been playing since Heavensward, do savage+ultimate, and Zodiark was a rough trial for me. The thing is it's not a difficult fight at all, I think it's just hard for people that can't easily visualize how the rotates+star mechanics work. It's not something you'd traditionally have to figure out in an MMO. I don't think it needs changed at all, the mechanics aren't difficult to overcome, my brain just doesn't work in the way the fight needs so I just follow a danger dorito. Like I know how it works and I've watched many a guide on how to do it but I just can't read it in the moment. I think if the fight were truly hard you wouldn't be able to just have everyone follow 1 person and succeed.

Funnily enough I heard a lot of people complaining that the second EW trial was the hard one and I found it easy af because it was more in line with my skillset in this game. The only hard part is spreads forever being a PVP mechanic if you aren't in a full premade.

I think many people forget one thing when it comes to normal: you don't have to nail everything to not die, you just have to get it somewhat right so you don't get one shot.
Like with the meteor patterns: if the centre only gets nuked once, just stay there and eat that one if nobody is able to be lead the party to a safe spot. Better than trying to do everything at once and then failing everything at once plus it gives time to just watch how the pattern translates into the actual meteor impacts.
Setting priorities is key and makes it often easier to learn. The fight has so little damage going out that it's not even a case of "B-b-b-but the poor healers won't be able to keep up!" and most dps can fully heal themself after eating a single meteor.

If someone is not sure how to eat none of the aoes, they can just stand in a spot where they're guaranteed to only eat one. These spots are generally much easier to spot and a good middle ground to avoid getting one shot.

[Elizabetha]

I've been playing for almost one year. I've mostly enjoyed instances in FF14.

There's something different about EW. I haven't enjoyed a single instance and have just stalled in 6.1 where the MSQ-content-update led to a dungeon.

I haven't felt like I'm missing anything yet.

I can't put my finger on it. The instances seem... angrier. They're not as fun this expansion.