*Spoilers* Anyone feel joining Emet would have been better

[EaraGrace]

I’m sorry where’s this big debate? The only thing we’re shown is her addressing the ancients during the final days… When she had the knowledge to bring it up beforehand and potentially avert the entire calamity altogether. She again, didn’t seem to even tell her closest followers everything, as the watcher has no clue about meteion, and her followers didn’t know their souls would be consumed etc.

Where is it said that the Watcher was part of the summoning again?

[OhNooo]

Where is it said that the Watcher was part of the summoning again?

This is off topic but I just have a question....

Eara, do you have a crush on Kizuya? xD No judgement, I just thought they were on your ignore list and you were done engaging with them but you can't help but reply to them. I'm diggin the whole i hate you but i actually love you type of vibe goin on here and I totally ship you guys. I think you secretly love debating don't you xD

[EaraGrace]

This is off topic but I just have a question....

Eara, do you have a crush on Kizuya? xD No judgement, I just thought they were on your ignore list and you were done engaging with them but you can't help but reply to them. I'm diggin the whole i hate you but i actually love you type of vibe goin on here and I totally ship you guys. I think you secretly love debating don't you xD

This is very cringey.

[OhNooo]

This is very cringey.

I think it's hilarious. I mean c'mon you're not having fun debating with people on here? You can't stay away for long even after you rage quit like THIS IS MY LAST TIME REPLYING I'M DONE....*5 hours later replies again* lmao. It's ok I've done it too.

[EaraGrace]

I think it's hilarious. I mean c'mon you're not having fun debating with people on here? You can't stay away for long even after you rage quit like THIS IS MY LAST TIME REPLYING I'M DONE....*5 hours later replies again* lmao. It's ok I've done it too.

I post in my spare time. The fact that this is the most replied to one means I can’t really avoid it, same with the controversial threads in the general forum. I’m definitely not posting as much as previously because of wanting to disconnect from the horrible discussion here but I think once in a while is fine.

Please refrain from speculating about my motivations, not only are you wrong you really accomplish nothing but causing drama.

[thegreatonemal]

I’m sorry where’s this big debate? The only thing we’re shown is her addressing the ancients during the final days… When she had the knowledge to bring it up beforehand and potentially avert the entire calamity altogether. She again, didn’t seem to even tell her closest followers everything, as the watcher has no clue about meteion, and her followers didn’t know their souls would be consumed etc.

Replay shadowbringers 5.2 and 5.3. Elidbus dragged himself out of Zodiark to mediate these debates. We have people on Venat's side lamenting how they won't listen and that the immediate problem has been stopped but their doom is still coming.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Replay shadowbringers 5.2 and 5.3. Elidbus dragged himself out of Zodiark to mediate these debates. We have people on Venat's side lamenting how they won't listen and that the immediate problem has been stopped but their doom is still coming.

Yes that’s post final days though, and we don’t even know if he was able to start mediating. Also, we’re told the tempered convocation itself was divided on the issue and this was all in regards to the 3rd set of sacrifices. However afaik Venat doesn’t even mention the sacrifices whatsoever in EW. Either way again, the overall point is she did nothing prior to the final days when she had the information at hand to potentially do something about it. Imagine for a second if after we learned about the final days on the moon and that it was coming, we said nothing to no one. We acted dumb in thavnair and garlemald and for the role quests and we just didn’t say anything. We’d easily be the villain. That’s exactly what Venat did.

Eara to answer your question or statement rather, i bring up the watcher because he’s her creation is he not? Yet she didn’t even tell her own creation about Meteion…

[KariTheFox]

Eara to answer your question or statement rather, i bring up the watcher because he’s her creation is he not? Yet she didn’t even tell her own creation about Meteion…

If - as we've been saying - information about Meteion was particuarly sensitive and dangerous, especially if someone like Fandaniel ever learned about it, why would Venat go ahead and leave it lying around on the sophisticated AI that runs Zodiark's Moon prison, where any curious ascian or Allagan with a spaceship might be able to find out about it?

[KizuyaKatogami]

If - as we've been saying - information about Meteion was particuarly sensitive and dangerous, especially if someone like Fandaniel ever learned about it, why would Venat go ahead and leave it lying around on the sophisticated AI that runs Zodiark's Moon prison, where any curious ascian or Allagan with a spaceship might be able to find out about it?

She left the loporrits with their wild creation magic’s that could potentially ruin her entire plan or worse, destroy the moon. I think common sense and worrying about anything sensitive or dangerous went out the window yesterday.

[KariTheFox]

She left the loporrits with their wild creation magic’s that could potentially ruin her entire plan or worse, destroy the moon. I think common sense and worrying about anything sensitive or dangerous went out the window yesterday.

So, because the Loporrits did something with creation magic that Venat didn't anticipate, after she died for real no less - this means that she wouldn't have been concerned with information security around Meteion, despite having said already she considered information about Meteion to be especially dangerous, particuarly where Fandaniel is concerned?

What you have there is a non-sequiter.